Ep. 155: The Tall Being From The Woods

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me. Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us, and one. Of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw. The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Wright. Nine's episode. We're gonna be joined by my guest Amber. Amber has had some experiences and she wanted to come on the show and share a little bit about them. 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But I guess that's probably another story for another day. That's a recently new development. But yeah, I'm just kind of a sort of a boring person. I guess the way I look at it, I don't do anything exciting and just you know, here raising my children in the woods. That's about it. And you said in Virginia, you didn't happen to get any damage from the recent hurricane, did you. We got some, not anything too terrible. We had some giant trees go down in the yard, and thankfully our house didn't get hit. But it wasn't. It was close, but luckily we were safe. Lots good. I know, from at least what I've seen and what people have said, it's actually a lot worse than what's being led to be believe in some of the areas. But I don't, Like I said, I only see what's on the internet, so who really knows. Around here, we had a lot of flooding. And actually the area that I used to live at I call it the farmhouse. I lived in a farmhouse that was built in eighteen eighty five, and that was in another little community about forty five minutes from here, and that entire area, someone told me recently, is gone. It's completely flooded. Everything's gone. So I have not driven out there yet to see it. I try not to go to that area because it just it still creeps me out pretty bad, so I stay away from it. But mostly nothing's there anymore. So I never thought much about the hurricane making so much damage inland that far, especially in the mountains, because you think mountains are abubbly. If water coming down the valleys, it makes sense it would flood. Still, very strange. What did they say Ashville was like three hundred miles from any coast and over two thousand in elevation right, and it's gone. Ashville is demolished. It's all under mud at this point, so that's terrifying. Ashville was a beautiful place. I used to go there for shows and stuff quite a bit. I don't think I've ever been there, but I saw the photos of what it used to look like. I don't I wouldn't even want to know what it looks like now. Just mud. It's just mud the whole place. It's sad. Well, if you would like to get started, you can go right ahead, and I will let you know, and the audience know. I might not say a whole lot. I've been under the weather the last few days, so my voice is already starting to go out on me. Gocha, I'm going to hang back a little bit on this one and turned over to you. Oh goodness. I'm not even sure exactly where to start, because I've seen so many things here, and I guess I'll just say, first of all, I have four children, and the oldest is almost thirty, and the youngest is almost thirteen. In the middle to are twenty and twenty one now. And when we first moved to this area in Virginia. That was. Eleven years ago. So my oldest son was living in an apartment over a bar outside of town. And he he's a very uh enthusiastic, kind of dramatic kid, you know, and he would say, you know, he saw this, that or the other outside of his apartment in the woods, and I'm like, uh, okay. You know, he would just tell me these stories, and one of them being that he and his girlfriend were sitting out on the deck of the porch and like I said, the apartments outside of town, so it's it's surrounded by woods like everything else around here, and they I think they were having an argument or something, and they were just in a heated discussion and not paying attention to anything else around them. But all of a sudden, there was a noise like crashing through the trees, and they both stopped and turned and looked, and he said, there was something just huge. He said, I don't I couldn't even begin to tell you what it looked like or what it was, just like sort of humanoid shaped, you know, but taller than these trees that were outside of their apartment, you know, not even that far from them. He said, it's almost like it just kind of stood up out of the trees and was than the trees. And he's like, you know, he said that he could see like arms and a head and shoulders and everything, and it was all taller than the trees. And I don't believe him, you know, because and I should know better than to not believe him, because it turns out, just about everything he says that he sees, I end up seeing later. So later on, we were having a party at what I lived in, this really old farmhouse outside of town, and we were having a party, just like a little birthday party, and things were winding down, and my middle two kids were in the backyard and about six friends were still there, just sitting around a table outside, just having a drink and just you know, still talking and everything. And my cousin was leaving, so I went to walk to the car, and as I was coming back, I heard this, you know that everybody was just hyper and freaking out, and you know, I'm like, guys, what's going on? And they said they saw as soon as I left. As soon as I got around to the front of the house to walk her to her car, something stood up from the shadow of the barn, and it was like much taller than the barn. It's like a two story hay barn, just you know, like a normal sized barn. But whatever it was, they said, stood up from the shadows and was much taller than the barn. And it was like a humanoid figure, you know, just stood straight up and just pranced off into the woods. And these are kids, like my middle two kids are not. I was always like kind of you know, into weird things, and you know, like I liked stories about you know, hauntings and spooky stuff and all that. I liked it. I didn't know how much I believed in it. It was really skeptical, but I liked that kind of stuff. My middle two kids were never like that. They're very grounded, very you know, they don't believe in any woo woo thing like ghosts or demons or if they don't experience it, they don't believe it at all. They don't you know, just buy into anything. But for them to be rattled, and you know, every single person there, all six of the other people that were there, saw it, so that rattled me. But I didn't get to see that one. And as a lot of things that my kids get to see. I haven't, but I've experienced a few really scary things around here. I think, so the things you said it looked humoid and everything what exactly like can you describe how it appeared. The way they describe it, both of them from the two different sets of people that saw them, my son and his girlfriend and then the other kids that were at the party. They all said it's it was just basically a really tall, skinny like if you took a you know, a normal person and just stretched them, you know, in every direction, and just naked and sort of like maybe a grayish brown skin color, just like really long arms, long fingers, like a long neck, like an elongated, large head, a really long body. Could they see eyes or a mouth? I remember my son definitely said it had a face, and he was like, the eyes were big and dark, and it just it had a face. It wasn't quite human, but you know, features in the correct places. But he said it definitely wasn't a human face, but like a humanoid face. There's a lot of different stories that get tossed around, especially in those areas of what they call pale crawlers, but those typically aren't super tall. I don't believe, but the description seems to match that, and I know there's a correlation with some people think the pale crawlers are actually what the Native Americans were referring to up north when they call them windigoes. The story of the wind to Go has been bastardized by white settlers over the years, but basically a window goes depictions from the Native Americans was a very slenderly person because they were a human at one point, and they're more of a spiritual thing now. But they became like a cannibal. They ate the flesh of one of their siblings or relatives something like I don't know the exact thing. I'm sure i'll be lectured about that too, But and they were just like almost like walking corpses to an extent, like their bodies morphed into like really pale, lengthy, big wide mouth with no lips because they ate their lips off. Fact, that is the actual depictions of what windigoes used to be. Now you hear when to Go, and everyone thinks of the big monster with the big antler head, the deer dead deer head, and that's not what they originally were. So I've always wondered if people that seen these things are actually nowadays they see stuff around a well, I think it was the sixties. The Dover Demon was basically described as a bulbous headed humanoid looking thing and almost like gray alien in my opinion, but it was kind of crawling on the edge of the road. But again the same type of body, long fingers, long arms, And that's what people say today. They see a lot and a lot of people call them rakes. Well, rakes were made as a creepypasta, but I think they were influenced by what people call pill crawlers, and I think influence from something probably like the Windo Goes. So I think all these things are somehow intertwined one way or the other. And again I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm just going out of a microphone, but in my opinion, that's kind of what I feel like. Maybe some of these things correlate. With I've heard so many different stories and it's hard to imagine that there's not some kind of connection. And and like you said, with the wind to Go being like a spiritual thing, now that's what I'm wondering, if it's almost like is it an interdimensional kind of creature. I mean, I don't know is that even you know, is that even a thing? I mean, I don't know. It's it's definitely interesting to contemplate, but there's it's so hard to nail down a concrete answer about any of this stuff. And that's what's frustrating to me, because I want to know, like I want to know specifics, you know, I want I want the truth, and it's so hard to find. Like you said, you know, the depictions of the wind to go with the antlers and all that. I've looked up all that. You know, I've done so much research, like you know, trying to figure out what we're seeing and what we're encountering, and trying to figure out, for one thing, the validity of a lot of this stuff, because my kids play in the woods, you know, and if there is something legitimate out there, you know, I want to make sure that my kids are safe, you know. So I've looked into this a lot, and there's nothing concrete, and there's just you know, stories and tales and speculation. You know, right, Yeah, there's never going to be anything definitive when it comes to these things, because if you look through history there's been reports on all sorts of paranormal activity, there's been cryptid sidings, have been all sorts of these signings, but for some strange reason, there's never been any physical proof, at least not that we're aware of, right. Not a body, not, you know, just nothing. So you mentioned being skeptical earlier. I'm very skeptical too, And for me, it's like seeing as believing, Like you have to be able to see something in order to believe it. Otherwise it's interesting to hear everything, but you still remain a little bit. I mean, well, at least that's how I am, just because I think people see a lot of stuff, and I don't necessarily know if everything that they're seeing is one hundred percent what they're thinking it is. It could be misidentification, or it could very well be what they're actually saying it is, because who knows. M h. Yeah, I'm the same way. Even when I do see something, if there's no one else there that sees it with me, I'm totally willing to say my eyes play tricks on me, or my imagination was you know, just you know, I was scared and my imagination ran away with me or something you know, I saw something that was something else that I just I mean, just last night, me and my daughter, she swore she saw a mountain lion. So we went out in the woods to look and see what we could find. And we went out in the woods of the flashlight and it ran right into something and there was two eyes looking back at us, and I was like, oh my gosh, here we go. Here's a mountain lion. But it turned out to be dear, you know. But my imagination at the time was like, that's the right size and shape, you know, and of course it's got to be a mountain line, you know, until I figured out, you know, until it turned its head the right way and the flashlight caught its body. But you know, I'm willing to say something could be there, and I'm willing to say something. You know, things do exist. But even if I see something i've you know, I've got to make sure somebody else sees it too, and that's definitely what we're seeing, and you know, talk about it and make sure we saw the same thing. But I've actually only as far as that kind of thing. I've only seen something like that one time. And even when everyone else around me has said, you know, they've seen this that or the other, or they heard something. I've only seen something like that that I can recall right now one time, and that was not too long ago. We had just moved into this house that we were buying, this cute little house in the middle of like twelve acres of woods, and we're literally surrounded on all four sides by these great, big trees, and it's wonderful. But one night, not too long after we moved in, I had a really weird experience. And I still have no explanation for it. But when we first moved in out here, something just felt really off outside, and everybody felt it. Like if I would go out to my car at night to go somewhere or something, as soon as I would get to the point of the driveway where the light didn't shine from the front porch and the you know, like the darkness of the woods was right there, I would feel terrified. And I've always lived in places with woods and never they don't bother me. It's just like, oh, that's woods and they're dark, you know, no big deal. But when we first moved in out here, I felt so scared of these woods and could not figure out why. And one night I woke I was having a dream that I was in those woods. And as soon as I realized I was in the woods in my dream, I said, I don't this is not right. I don't go in these woods at night. I'm scared of these woods. And there were like other, I say, people, but I couldn't see anyone else around. But there were just other somethings around me that I could since. But like I said, it was dark, so I just knew that there were others around me. And I said, well, it's okay that I'm out here because my fiance is with me. And then one of them said, that's not your fiance. And when I looked over at him, the like the light of the moon or whatever was on him, and I realized it wasn't him, and I said, what's going on? And when I oh, my goodness, hang on just a second. When I said that, are you still there? Yeah, I'm here, okay, Sorry, I had an in come and call somehow. Sorry about that anyway. When I said what's going on? I said it in my dream, but I was I was speaking out loud, and it woke me up. My own voice woke me up and I said, something's wrong. And I my fiance was asleep with me, and he said, why are you scared? And I said, oh, it's nothing, It's just I'm trying to get used to these spirits around here. And then I was so confused because I was like, why did I say that. That's not even what I was thinking, that's not what I was experiencing. Why would I say that? And I said, something's not right, and I got up. And this was exactly two hours after I had went to sleep. And I take sleeping pills to go to sleep at night, and these these pills knocked me out solid for about four hours and at least four hours, but it's like a four hour minimum, like I'm dead to the world. So I woke up and went to sleep at midnight and woke up about two and I felt like I had been asleep forever, and I felt really disoriented and almost like I had been away. You know that feeling of like when you go on vacation, you're gone for a couple of weeks and you come home to your house and it just feels like you haven't been there in a long time. I don't really, Yeah, that's it's kind of odd, you know. So I felt really odd like that, like I hadn't been here in a while. And I got up and I walked through my house and everything seemed normal. And I went and checked on both of my kids and they were asleep. Everything was fine. And I said, there's got to be something. There's gotta be something. I know there's something. Something's not right. That that was a weird that just didn't feel like a dream. And I told my fiance, I'm gonna go look out back, and you know, just I'm gonna go look outside and see what's going on. And out front looked normal. And as soon as I turned the corner to go to the backside of the house that's not lit up, he and I both saw this really tall gray being in the backyard and like a humanoid shaped being, like much taller than me and I'm almost six foot tall. And I didn't stop to see what it was, to explore any further. It just made my blood run cold. I turned around and went right back in the house and locked the door, and I just sat by the window looking out for the longest time. And the only thing we could see that was out of the normal was there was a a like a pale blue light down in the woods behind the house. And there's no houses back there forever, so I have no idea what that was, but it was just really strange and uncomfortable, and I was I'm really glad my fiance was there with me, so he could, you know, confirm that we both saw the same thing. But if not, I would have just said it was again like I was a little freaked out. Must have been my imagination, but he saw it too, And I just have no answers for what it was. I just I just know what I saw, and it was terrifying. And I can't even explain why it was terrifying. It just just something really weird that should not have been there. How long ago was this. We moved in here in April, so not that long then, right, I'm going to say, like the end of May, beginning of June somewhere around there. Okay, so pretty recent. Well this thing could you give any like did it have any like sort of features to itor? Kind of just again, like just the same thing almost like what you described earlier, like the tall, gray, splendored linky body. Yep, long I remember, just like the fingers, like the arms hung down at the side and the fingers were just too long, and it just made me really uncomfortable. And it almost felt like maybe it in my mind, I feel like maybe it glowed a little bit, but I mean that could have been the way the moon caught it, you know, but it just it just wasn't It wasn't human, and it wasn't anything I've seen before. So I have no idea. Did it go anywhere or you just no I went. It was just standing right at the edge of the woods, like right in the tree line, and I mean there were no trees blocking It was like standing like on on our side of the tree line, just just standing. And I didn't stick around to find out. I mean most of the time, like I said in the beginning, I mean I'm a medium. And I say that cautiously because I am not the type of person that would believe in something like that, and and wouldn't believe in myself to say that I was a medium unless I have experienced that for one hundred percent confirmation. And so being you know, having those abilities means that I've encountered a lot of things in the spirit realm, and so I'm not scared of much, you know. I mean, like I said, my daughter said she saw a mountain lion, and my son had said he saw one a couple of nights before that, So I said, okay, cool, let's go find the mountain lion. You know, not many things scare me, So when I counter something that makes my blood run cold, I'm out of there. I don't stick around to ask questions because if it makes me scared, I'm out. You mentioned earlier about the UFS of sightings. Was that anything recent to or is that a while back? All of those have been It's it's been a while. I mean, I think the first time was gosh, twenty twenty years ago, and I've seen things off and on throughout the years, but I haven't seen anything recently. Okay, because when you mentioned that, the descriptions I keep thinking of, I don't want to say one way or the other, what you're seeing is something I don't know. But they have that same description of different version of the grays. But there's a taller race of them supposedly, like obviously everyone knows, like the shorter four foot tall ones. And there's also supposed to be something there like seven foot tall. Right, Yeah, And I've looked into different extraterrestrial stories over the years, and that is probably the last thing that really that's my holdout with with me being able to say I'm not scared of anything. That's the last thing that I'm truly terrified of. It used to be spiders and bears and you know, the woods and the dark, and I've worked really hard to overcome all of that stuff, but I'm still really scared of anything extraterrestrial. And I think it's I think the reason that I'm still scared is because of the experiences that I've had and the things that I do remember. I'm in every in every encounter that I've experienced, the little pieces that I do remember are I'm out of control. I have no control over the situation, and like my freedom and my liberty and my safety, you're just taken away from me. And there's absolutely nothing that you can do about it. I mean, if somebody breaks into your house, you know, you could defend yourself, you can call the police, you know, you have weapons or whatever. But when it comes to anything extraterrestrial, there's just nothing you can do to stop them. When they make up their mind that they're gonna, you know, abduct someone or you know, come in your house or anything. I mean, there's just nothing that can be done. So that's my last hold out. And I'm so so scared of anything extraterrestrial, unfortunately because I wish that I wasn't because I wish I could explore more into it, but I'm terrified. I don't mess with it. I feel like that could be anything in general though too, not just extraterrestrial. For me, it's, uh, I don't like going to these haunted places or whatever because I'm afraid I'm gonna bring something back that I'm not intending to bring back. And oh I love it. I love it. For me, it's like, if you know there's something screwy going on in these places and then you're gonna go kick up that hornet's nest, you might get stung, so I don't do it. True, Yeah, and I have been. I have been haunted by things and that kind of stuff. Just unless it's something particularly nasty, it doesn't really scare me. For some reason, being able to communicate with things. On the other side, I rarely encounter anything that really terrifies me. I mean, when you when you can feel something there that you can't see it's it can definitely be unnerving. But I can, like I can feel their energies and a lot of times their intentions. I can even feel when they're lying and you know, pretending to be something else or someone else or whatever. So that kind of thing it rarely bothers me. I've encountered some things that just you know, made me feel really uneasy. But I love spooky places. I love haunted places. I go to people's houses that are haunted, and you know, I'm able to tell them, well, this is who is here, and this is why they're here, and you know, this is what you can do to you know, make peace with them or whatever, or you know, able to cleanse energies and that kind of thing. So I'm not I'm not scared by much. So the the et encounters that I have had are so unsettling and so unnerving. And I actually one of the reasons that they are so unsettling to me is because and I can send you some pictures if you want. I have scars all over my back and I think there's five or six and they always they're almost like butterfly shaped and I and some of them are really big, it's like maybe three inches long. And I have no idea, but I started to correlate. I started to realize, like I would have these dreams that I was taken and then I would have a scar, and I have no explanation. I have no like, no injury, nothing happened to me. I have There's just no reason for me to have these scars on my back. And I actually got a great big tattoo all the way across my back to cover a lot of them up. But there's just no reason for them to be there. And one of the last ones my kids. I had some step kids that lived in the farmhouse with me, and there were seven kids total that were in the farmhouse and every morning they, the littler ones, would go out to feed the chickens. And they didn't tell me this until later when I was talking with my youngest daughter about the scars on my back, and I told her, you know, because I didn't discuss this with her when we lived there because she was younger and I didn't want her to be scared. But I told her there were some things that I couldn't remember, and I feel like something may have you know, taken me or something. I don't, I can't confirm that, but you know, I would dream about it and then I would, you know, wake up with this stinging on my back and realized that I had another scar. And she said some of her experiences out there, you know, when they would go out early in the morning to feed the chickens, she said that she would see like footprints, like my footprints in the snow, and they were barefoot. And because in my dreams, I would be standing at the edge of my yard staring into the woods, and then something would just snatch me and I would be gone. And I would wake up later and I would be in bed and I would be cold. And my ex husband at the time said multiple times he would wake up throughout the night and I would be gone, and you know, like just not in bed, you know. And when he like, he would wake up a little bit later, as I would be getting back into the bed, and I would be just cold. He said, it just felt like you had been standing outside for whatever reason. And anybody that knows me knows I am so cold natured, and the last thing I would do was go outside barefoot for any reason. And I certainly wouldn't just you know, run around outside in the snow barefoot in my pajamas, you know. And my daughter said, the weird thing was that there was only one set of tracks, like one set of my footprints in the snow, and they would just go out and there were no tracks coming back in. So all of that was so unsettling to me. And I have no answers, and I've you know, I actually have a cousin who's a hypnotist, and i've she's she just got her masters in whatever it is like her, she's a master hypnosis person or whatever the title is. But yes, yes, but I told her recently, it would be so cool if you would come see if you can hypnotize me and see what is there in my memory because I looked into like Betty and Barney Hill. I heard a podcast that had their story on it, and I was like, oh my gosh, that's fascinating, and you know, they went to the hypnotists and they got some answers and a lot more questions. But I thought that would be really cool if I could find out what, if anything, this means. I mean, maybe I was sleepwalking and just you know, walked outside in in the snow, barefoot. I mean, that's definitely possibility. And you know, I stay skeptical because I I really don't want to believe anything until I've seen proof. But I just think it's it's just a lot. There's there's a lot of stories, there's a lot of dreams, a lot of just things that don't make sense, and so I'd really like to get answers. I think when it comes a hypnotist and everything like that, I'm very I don't want to say skeptical, but I am to an extent because I feel like maybe they put unintentionally put in a memory and like they're asking questions and all of a sudden you're having like a false memory. And I'm almost just like being fed to you. But I also I would be nervous of finding out stuff that you don't want to remember. Mm hmmm. I'm skeptical as well. And I fully plan on recording our session and you know, letting her know ahead of time, Like, you know, don't don't ask me any leading questions. You know, even if we don't get to an answer, no answer is better than like a false answer, you know, don't lead me in any direction. Just ask me, you know what I see and what I'm experiencing, and just let me, let me have those memories if that's what they truly are, because yeah, you an irresponsible hypnotist can really mess you up, and I don't want that either. So I'm just a paranoid person in general. So I would be very leary of going to someone. And I've interviewed hypnotists before and I've said the same thing as like, I would just be afraid of not so much what they would find out. But at the same time, like I just I don't necessarily believe it. So I think for me, I wouldn't be able to be hypnotized because I don't necessarily believe that they could do it, If that makes any sort of sense mm hm. I feel like you have to be able to accept that, and for me, I don't necessarily accept it. I'm I'm really skeptical. I'm not skeptical that hypnotism is a thing and that it works and you know that it's real. I just I'm skeptical that it's going to work on me. So I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'll just fall right under it and spill all my stories and then I'll have answers, which would be great. You know. Yeah, I don't I don't say one way or the other. I don't recommend it to people, but everyone's entitled to do what they want to do. I just say, make sure you're careful of what you start looking into. You don't know what you're gonna find. Mm hmm. Yeah, that is very true. And I've actually, uh real recently, I've got sort of some blanks from my childhood and they involve the woods behind my house. So that's what led me to contact my cousin and say, hey, like, could you come stay for a weekend and let's you know, dig into this because you know, I just I want to know, like, because I feel like we can't heal from anything traumatic unless we can remember and process those things. So I just feel like there's something there under the surface that I'm not remembering. And maybe it just has something to do with this extraterrestrial Maybe there's some childhood trauma in there that I've blocked out. I mean, who knows, But you know, I have extremely vivid dreams of things that just feel so pacific, and I wonder, you know, why would I dream like at thirteen years old, I dreamed of Gray's coming into my room and just lifting me out of bed and just taking me and like through the wall, and there was nothing I could do about it. And I had no fear of extra trust. I didn't even believe in aliens and any of that before then. And I have no idea why my mind would conjure something like that, And I would just really like to know. And I don't know if that has anything to do with the things that we've seen in these woods out here, and I don't know. I'd really love to have answers. You mentioned going through the wall. That stands out to me because I've talked with other people and they've said the same exact thing of they've been taken from their bed and they get taken through the wall. They don't like go through a window or or and they literally like somehow just travel through the actual wall, which is which is strange, like how one a solid person can just move. So it makes me wonder if they're not taking not so much the person, which they would have to in this extent, like if you have scars and stuff. Obviously it's a physical thing. But I've always wondered maybe as they're not taking them like consciousnessly. Right, like taking your your spirit or whatever right. I think that's I think that's why a lot of people claim that these things are actually demons. Which that's the big thing I've noticed here in the last couple of years is everything's neffle in their demons. It seems like those are the two, right, the trendy things that get tossed around. Yeah, I don't, I don't know, but when it comes to that, it's just makes me wonder how that's possible. Exactly. Yeah, And I had never thought about it that way, but I mean that's possible. I mean, if we're talking about things that are impossible and supernatural, I mean, could could that be a possibility? It seems like it could. I mean, goodness, there's a lot of rabbit holes that that can go into. But yeah, and I've seen things like I learned to astro project in twenty twenty because you know, the world was shut down and what else did we have to do but meditate? And I learned to astro project. And I've seen things when I astro projected that you know, we're et related, and so maybe you're onto something. Maybe it's like they're taking our spirit and not our in some instances. How did you learn to astro project I've talked to several different people about it, and each way seems to be starts with meditation. Mm hmm. Is that how you started? Yeah, I just Whitley Streeper, I think I want to I want to say Whitley Streeper's book is kind of what turned me onto it because I had seen so many, uh so many UFO type of things in the sky with other people, you know, and so I can't, you know, like I said, if someone else is there and can see it with me, then I'll say, Okay, we had an experience and we saw something. And I had seen so many of them during the time period right before I moved to the Appalachian Mountain area that when I moved here, I started looking in the library for books on you know, alien encounters and that kind of thing, and ran into one of his books and started and he had something about astra projection in it and how I honestly can't remember how the two were connected, but I thought, well, if that's where he went to look for answers, then that's probably what I should do. And I had never really meditated. I daydreamed a lot, but it never meditated. So I thought I better give this a try and see what happens. And I have been able to astra project really easily. And I can't explain how or why, because I'm not that devoted of a meditatorjul't spend you know, hours and hours and hours doing it like some people are just you know, so devoted. I'm not. And I was just able to I kind of rip open my third eye, honestly, and just was able to see things like I would meditate and I would start to see like a light inside my mind, I guess, and if I focused on that light, it would go away. So I would focus on the center of like we're like the center of my forehead. I would just focus everything on that black space in the center of my forehead, and then I would realize that I was somewhere else and that I couldn't feel my body anymore. And I suffered from chronic pain almost all the time, and I've had several injuries to my back, so I'm just hurt all the time. But I know that I'm leaving almost immediately because I can't feel anything anymore, Like my body stops, like it stops hurting. I can't feel anything. And I had to really train myself to make my body keep breathing while I was not in it anymore. And that was the biggest challenge and still is my biggest challenge because I'll realize that, like I'm just holding my breath, and then I'll kind of pull my focus back, like you have to learn to breathe. But it was just easy for me just to slip out of my body and just go places. And sometimes it just don't. I don't really do it on purpose, Like I don't go anywhere on purpose. I can't like I can't say, well, I'm gonna go to Walmart, you know, and just astro project into the grocery department, you know. I just let go of my body and just leave. But where I go is it really in my control? Unfortunately, I've actually had some people on Facebook, multiple people that I didn't even know we were just happened to be in the same groups, and they multiple people have messaged me and said, you were in our room last night. Me and my wife both saw you or you know, and I have no idea why not a clue. Absolutely have no control over where I go, but I just I just go places. And I've seen extraterrestrials in that in that space of wherever I go, too, and those are really scary. When you see them on the other side in that area, it's like you're there with them, you know, like instead of them coming here, you're there. And I don't know how to really articulate that very well, but it just it feels like I'm in the wrong place and I should not be there, and I have to pull myself out of there immediately when I encounter that, because that is very scary to me. You're the I've heard from other people too, and like, you're not the first who has told me this, but they say when they astral project they do run into these other beans. And it makes you wonder again if what we're calling extra terrestrials are actually from a different reality rather than from outer space. So maybe they're like interdimensional beans. Because if you're aftral projection, I feel like you're not really traveling through this like through space. You're more or less traveling through some weird realm mm. But I feel like I've traveled to places like here on this planet, just like in a field of wildflowers, and have no idea why I'm there. Also traveled to places where I was actually in space, like from my understanding, my point of view, in a in a black space with stars and other planets. I've seen a purple planet, and I've seen a red planet, and I've seen ships, and just so, I've gone different places here and in this what I recognize as you know, this planet. And then I've just been in places I could barely describe because they just seem so alien to me. I really I don't know, I mean, and there again, I'm skeptical, so I could say, well, I'm just stepping out of my body and hallucinating. I have no idea. I really don't. Yeah, it's it's hard to understand, especially if one's actually astro traveling. How do you can correlate that into the like our reality, because the whole concept to me is just bizarre, But. It is even after you experienced it. It's bizarre. And when I say stuff like this out loud, I'm like, do you realize this kind of sound like you should probably be institutionalized, you know, But I'm like, well, and the thing that I always go back to is like the things that preceded this I did not experience alone, you know, the all of the encounters, like uh, ironically, it was one night me and my oldest son and a few of our friends were watching The Fourth Kind and my I'm I'm terrified of the Fourth Kind. You know, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is this is horrifying because you know, it's got the real foot and I'm like, it's unexplained of what it is. And supposedly the woman's daughter was abducted and she's never returned, and to me, that's just horrifying. So and he I realized that, you know, he had never seen the movie. So I'm like, oh my gosh, we have to put this on and watch it. And we watched the movie and he's like, that's stupid, that's not real. I don't believe in that, you know. I'm like, okay, well, you know, believe what you want to believe. And immediately after him and his friend went outside to smoke a cigarette and they're standing out in the yard and then he starts yelling for me, and he sounds he has this dramatic way of being like mom, Mom, you have to come look at this. And I'm like, okay, you know, here we go, and he's he's a very dramatic child with a huge imagination, so there was just always something with him growing up, you know. And so I go out there. I'm like, okay, what do we what are we inform out and he points over the top of a tree in the yard, just a random tree, and he's like look, and I'm like yeah. He's like, don't you see that? Said, well, that's a star. Okay, He's like yeah, but watch it. Like okay, so this star just is just a normal looking light in the sky like anything else. Everything else surrounding it looks exactly the same. It's a little brighter. But we're standing there staring at it and I'm bored, you know, and all of a sudden it moves, but just a little bit, you know, it just moves up and then it stops, and I'm like, wow, okay, what is that? And and him and his friend are like, we've been watching it do that for like ten minutes. Now it'll move just a little bit, and that'll move just a little bit, and I'm like, what's that And he's like, over there, there's another one, and we realized there were three different lights in the sky that were just a little bit brighter than the other ones, and they would just move a tiny bit, and as we're standing out there focusing on them, it's almost like they came like more into view. And we realized that there were three like ship looking things that were like triangles, but like they flew over top of the house and like came together and made like one giant triangle together, and they were so close we could see like the littler lights inside of it and like the details and stuff, And like I said, I'm not going to believe anything unless there's somebody else there to witness it with me, because otherwise I'm just gonna say I had an hallucination, and oh, well, you know. But all three of us stood there and watched this thing right over our heads. It was three different lights from different points in the sky that lit up and came together and formed a triangle. And when it took off, it actually like it didn't fly with like the point of the triangle in the direction that it was going. It was like backwards, was like the flat part leading the way, if that makes any sense, which I thought was really strange. So at that point, I you know, because there are triangular shaped like jets, sort of triangular, but you know, but it flew like a jet flying backwards, which made no sense to me at all. And jets don't like hover as far as I'm aware. But you know, the jet, oh does it? Okay, that's it's been around since I think the early nineties, if not the eighties. But there is a jet that does do a hover. Okay. I'm not sure if three of them can come to get other inform one, but. No, but there is jets to do that. I mean, I think it was in the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie True Lies. They had one in there towards the end of the movie where he's shooting from the bridge and then he's flying the supposedly flying a Harry or jet or something like that. Oh wow, okay, well yeah, yeah, I definitely. I like I like looking into the connections that you that you can come up with with different movies that you know, people say they're telling us the truth and they're putting it in plain sight. You know. So a lot of times, you know, it's it's hard for me just to relax and watch a movie because I'm like, is this programming? Are they showing us things? You know? And I've become just sensitizing. I've just become so suspicious, I guess since you know, I guess you could say an awakening, but you know, just kind of realizing that everything I've ever known was a lie. And you know, that actually started with me in nursing school and hearing the truth about certain things from doctors and I was, you know, blown away. And that's when I started digging into different things because I'm like, well, if they're lying to us about this, what else are they lying to us about? You know? And I guess I took the same stance when looking into the extraterrestrial thing. And I haven't been able to find a lot of connections with you know, the supernatural stuff and the you know, but I'm still looking, you know, I'm still putting things together. But you know, with me being a conspiracy person, and I know I'll get harassed for not asking, but what did you find out when you're doing nursing stuff? What was the medical field line about? Well, one of the ladies at the clinics, one of the doctors there, there was like a clinic on the grounds of the high school, and she had seen it's one of those like stop in if you've got a sore throat or something, you know, basically to get a note for school or whatever. She knew that I had kids, and she had treated them, you know, off and on for a couple of little things. And she said, when you're putting those, it's away, she said, read the inserts and tell me what you think. And I was like, all right, I sure will, because I'm so curious about just about anything. So you know, let's go. And I did. And I was like, these are poisonous. You know. I went to hers like just basically, these are poisonous and she was like yeah, and she said and and I know that's a totally unpopular thing. And you know, I get screamed at a lot by different people because you know, I don't my kids anymore. But that's when I stopped saying my kids. And like tetanus. You cannot get tenanus from a rusty nail, you cannot get it from a broken glass. There's one way to get tetanus, and you're not going to prevent it with a tetnis shot either, So you have to actually have an open wound, and your open wound has to be has to come in contact with the infected feces of an animal that has tetanus, and that that's it. And I had to I had to research that quite a bit when my daughter stepped on a rusty nail and drove it halfway through her foot. But yeah, you you know, for one thing, there's a lot of lies that go into the medical field, and is a big, a big portion of that. I will just say right now that that word that you're using I'm going to edit out because I have been banned for certain words that gets said, and that is one word that does. So I'll yeah, I'll leave it for the audience to figure out. I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that they can figure it out. But just because of the AI sensor bots and everything, I don't feel like being banned again on certain channels. Because isn't it crazy how that works? But yeah, we don't have freedom of speech, right they claim we do, but not when it's misinformation. Well a lot of the stuff that I've been harassed about isn't misinformation. It's strange how that works. So the system is it's very powerful, and they definitely don't want people knowing the truth. But here's the thing about the truth. At this point, it hardly matters because people have been so programmed and so brainwashed that they are completely unable to accept the truth. If you could spell everything out for them, you could lay it all out, write it out, draw a map, show and proof you know how all the things are interconnected and intertwined. And they just the majority of especially the American population, unfortunately, they can't accept it. It just it just like it will not compute at this point. So at this point, I don't know what they're afraid of, because it it doesn't matter. Nobody's gonna believe it anyway, except for the people who are already due. You know, I had an episode get banned because they were talking about stuff like that. Now, the concept of the episode was completely out there, but the fact that those things were brought up about something that happened in twenty twenty and people got sick, people died or whatever, and because of that is why he thought someone had passed away and the whole thing had gotten taken down and vanished, and just because of someone's opinion, right, I was like, I'm not even the one that even said it. And then I tried to edit it out and I tried to re release it and I got banned again. So it's just like whatever. So there's certain trigger words that set off AI bots, and the C word is one of them. The V word is one of them. So okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I'm there's certain there's other platforms I could be on. Like if I'm on Rumble, then it wouldn't matter. But if I'm wanting to be on the old Tube over here, then it has to be. I have to comply with their standards of bullshit. Yeah you do, Yeah, yeah you do. But now that's uh, it wouldn't be tenfoil taels if we didn't have some little weird conspiracy stuff here and there. Oh yeah, absolutely, And and like you, I'm sure you know, I'm sure you've seen it as you're you know, digging into different conspiracy theories. So much of it is connected, and the closest thing that I've found to explaining like the connection between like the supernatural and extraterrestrial, there's a I used to work in a factory for a little bit, and it's mindless mind numby god, awful work. So I would listen to books while I was working, and I came across this book from this lady who her house had been wiped out in Katrina, and they gave her a certain amount of money to buy a house. And the only thing she could afford was this house was being sold well under market value, and it was in Ohio on the River, a beautiful place, and she purchased this house, and I think it was just her and her son and her dog. And along the way she found out why the house was for sale for such a low price because the the previous owners and all the previous tenants had had such disturbing experiences there in the house. And as it turned out, according to her book, there's excuse me a portal in the house, and this portal brings forth supernatural things as well as extraterrestrial things, and she actually does like haunted tours and sleepovers and stuff. Because she can't live in the house anymore and she couldn't sell it, so she had to recoup her money somehow, and that was how she chose to do it. Instead of, you know, fighting against the supernatural aspect of the house, she just decided to embrace it and make her money back that way. But the book is pretty fascinating and it goes into detail about how these portals, you know, bring things through, and I thought, that's the first time I've ever heard of anybody reference those two things together. So, you know, maybe there's some legitimacy to it. I don't know. I mean, it makes sense in a way, but like I said, I'm skeptical, so I mean i'd have to, you know, dig further into it and explore to be able to understand, you know, how exactly that works. I mean, it sounds like something off of, you know, a sci fi movie or something. But right. I was just gonna say, I think somehow a lot of stuff are connected one way or the other. Ever since I started doing this show, I started off as someone wanting to find answers about stuff that I experienced. And the more I've done it, the more I've looked into things, the more I've talked with people, I've changed my perspective a lot from where I was to where I am now. I'm more open minded to certain aspects. I'm still skeptical a lot of the time, but for me, I think a lot of these weird phenomena are somehow related one way or the other, And I don't know how to describe it other than I'm not saying it's all interdimensional. I'm not saying it's all demons or spirits or whatever. But I feel like a lot of these things are all connected, and it. Does seem like there are certain hotspots, you know what I'm saying. Like it seems like there's areas that have so many stories about hauntings and spooky things and supernatural things, and also the extraterrestrial factor does seem to be there too, So I feel like there's something to it. Yeah. Again, I think like I've explained this before a few times. But when it comes to paranormal stuff, let's just take when people see like shadow figures or spirits or something like that. What if they're actually seeing a different wavelength, a different frequency of vibration patterns or whatever. It's like a different dimension, a different reality, and somehow it's bleeding into ours. So the things that we're seeing and interacting with we're calling ghost. What if the ghost realm is just a different level, a different plane, like we're on the three D world. What if they're the fifth dimension or something, and they're somehow down on ours. I'm trying to watch videos that explain stuff like this, and there was one from I think it was like the nineteen seventies or eighties. But we can't see past the three D world, Like they think time is the fourth dimension, but they say there's different dimensions past that. We don't have the capabilities of going to those dimensions. But what if something else has the capabilities of coming into ours? So that's right, right, because. I've seen it explained in a sense that because we are like the third dimension is a low dimension, and we're not able to like perceive other dimensions anymore than like something that is one dimensional, like a dot could perceive a dog. You know what I'm saying, Like, how how can you possibly perceive something you know, so much more complex? So there's just, you know, no way supposedly that we can perceive those things. But like you said, maybe they can come here and perceive us, and like we we feel that energy in in our space. But I really don't know. I mean, like I said, yeah, to me, it's just it's hard to describe, it's hard to explain. But that just that's how I come across and how I feel about things. And I don't try to get all spiritual or religious or anything to it, but that's how I feel like we are what we are. We are just some people call light beings, some people calls this or that. A lot of the time, I feel like we're living in a simulation. And I don't mean it like the matrix, but like the way things are set up. It's very very simulated. And I feel like the way the world's going nowadays, it's almost getting predictable and like this, I feel like everything's a stage at this point. It's just getting like a big, complete joke and it's hard to describe it, and it's I don't want to turn everything into like a conspiracy type thing, but for me, it's just I feel like everything seems so fake anymore. Yeah, it really does. I mean, And when you say like you feel like we're living in a simulation, I think it's I think we can see the programming. That's why it feels fake. You know, It's like we can see where the program is working. You know. It's it's almost like it's it's like you can see the system at work, and you can see the programming keeping everybody in check like they're supposed to be, you know, and how could you not, I mean, how could you not see it? And it's almost like somebody introduced me to the term NPC not too long ago, you know, a couple of years ago, and I started to see people so differently, you know, because there's there's this the people that just get up and go to work and pay their taxes and eat their dinner and go to bed, and they're just normal people. And then there's people like me who are just completely neurodivergent, who just don't fit. And you know, I've always wanted to be one of those people that just fit in and was normal. You know. I just felt like it was some kind of failure on my part to be normal, is I couldn't be like everyone else. And then as I've grown up and watched this whole thing play out, I realized that that's just not who I am. You know. I think there are some people who are just here, they're part of the simulation, part of the programming, and then there's other people who are some people, say star Seeds or whatever, you know, that are just different, you know, And I don't think we're the same at all, and the ones of us that can see it are the ones you know that are I don't want to say special, like it's a good thing, like, because it sucks. You know, it sucks to be able to see all this. It sucks to you know, be woke, as some people call it. It it's it's not a good thing. It's it doesn't make me feel special. It makes me feel kind of crazy most of the time and burdened. You know, it's you know, I've been asked before, you know, I talk to people about this kind of stuff a lot. I've been asked, you know, if I would choose to go back to sleep, and oh my gosh, there's such a huge part of me that would because seeing the things that I can see and experience and the things that I can has not been an enjoyable process. It's been terrifying and weird, and I mean I've almost put myself in a mental institution multiple times over this stuff, because it's heavy. It's a lot when you can see the way everything's working and there's nothing you can do about it other than just you know, work on yourself. Right. I've had this conversation a lot with people not so much on air or just people I'm friends with outside of obviously the podcast or anything. But I feel like when you mentioned MPCs, I've said that a few times that it sucks going through life realizing that you're just an MPC in a simulation game. And I feel like that's what majority of us are because we don't have any control over the actual outcome of anything. We see things, we want to change things. We don't like how things are going, and everyone's like, oh, we have the ability to change it. We really don't like, Oh, well, we get together, we outnumber everybody. It doesn't work that way, Like you're not going to get everyone on the same wavelength, you're not going to get everyone on the same mind set because we're programmed to not get along, and we're coursed into not getting along, and we're brainwashed not get along. That is literally society so right, part of the programming. It's because it are because the profit propaganda has been weaponized to keep us in hate with each other, whether it's over race or religion or politics. You know, those are the big three that you know, keeps all of us peasants, you know, divided amongst each other, so that we can't do anything about it. That's the program, you know. Yeah, That's that's how I feel. And anyone listening, I think that's at this point. If you don't like hearing that, then I'm sorry, But that's just how I am. The most thing I've figured out in this whole thing. That the the central answer that I've come up with, and I may tell you in six months that is, you know, that's changed. But as I've learned all all of this and I've grown, and I've researched and meditated and struggled, the central answer that I do have is that we have to evolve within ourselves and that we have to ascend, because apparently there's like we're like, this is a prison planet, and in order for you to escape the prison planet, you know, after death, you have to ascend. You have to raise your vibration higher then this existing vibration, you know, because apparently Earth is a low density prison planet and this is where you're sent to suffer and learn your lessons. But then supposedly once people get sent here to learn their lessons, they get caught up in the naggativetivity and the low vibration and they become low vibration themselves, because the system is designed to send people after you, to cause you trauma from the youngest ages and to you know, destroy the goodness that's in you so that you can't ascend out of here, and then you're just stuck here. You just ringincarnate right back. And that to raise your vibration is really difficult, especially as you're learning. You're learning all these horrible things, and you're like, how am I supposed to you know, raise my vibration and ascend when you know, I see things for what they are and that's depressing. So it's like a catch twenty two. And you know, in so many ways, I think. We're all just kind of stuck until kind of like what you were just saying, basically, until we're able to escape and move on to the next level, the next stage Boss Cying earlier kind of is we're stuck on the three D level. We got to figure out the tunnel or whatever to get to that flag to go to level four whatever, like oh, Mario reference just because right definitely we're just doing the same thing over and over and over. M h. Yeah, And it's it's crazy, but hopefully you know, through places you know, through different people discussing things and different social media and people coming together and sharing things that they've learned, we can keep putting the puzzle pieces together and come up with some more answers that'll help us get out of here or at least make the journey seem a little less lonely. That's that's what I've encountered so far, just so many people that have experienced similar things, and talking to people makes you feel less alone and less crazy when you realize so many p people have had these experiences, whether it's supernatural or extraterrestrial or you know both, you just you feel like, Okay, I might not be a nut job and I'm not alone in this, you know. So let's keep talking about it and see who we can help and what we can accomplish along the way. I guess all right, No, I agree. I think we all need to try and be the best that we can to each other. And I say that in the sense that there's too much negativity in the world. I don't want to contribute to the negativity. But at the same time, I'm only able to do what I can do. But I think we have the ability to be better, and I think once we're all better, we get to move on to the next stage. So if that's what I'm doing here, if it helps people, maybe it'll help me get to the next stage. Right, it can't hurt, if nothing else can't hurt. I think we can probably wrap this one up. But is there anything else you'd like to discuss before we do? I think I'm good for now. Well, Amber, it has been a pleasure talking with you. Well, thank you. I'm a little nervous, but hopefully you got some stuff you could use. Nah, it's good. I don't do a whole lot of editing. I always tell this to everyone else if you come on my show, I might edit a little bit here and there, but for the most part, it's just how it goes. I might cut out some silent spots here because I'm usually muted, so it takes me in a second to find the unmute button to say something. But I clean up some stuff here and there. So I think we have a good episode. That's great. But no, I definitely appreciate you coming on here tonight and talk with me, and for anyone that's been listening, just no, I appreciate you guys. Thanks for sticking around and thanks to Amber, but we're gonna head on out. So thanks for listening, and. Good night everyone, And that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltl dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. 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