Ep. 124: Sleep Paralysis & Otherworldly Encounters

[00:00:03] And I just turned around and I pulled ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that.

[00:00:12] The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest.

[00:00:21] When I turned my headlights on, it turned and looked at us.

[00:00:25] And one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were glowing red.

[00:00:30] I see a warp of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me.

[00:00:40] And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about?

[00:00:50] That's seven foot up on a tree peeking around it and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.

[00:00:57] As soon as I made eye contact with this thing it felt like death.

[00:01:05] Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales. I'm your host Brandon Wright. Tonight we're going to be joined by my guest, Sunny.

[00:01:11] Sunny has a podcast out there. I was on this show a while back.

[00:01:15] Talked about getting on here and doing a little bit of talking on my show.

[00:01:19] So I'm definitely looking forward to talking with Sunny again. Dive into some of the weird experiences he's had.

[00:01:24] Any kind of why he does a show before we jump into that.

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[00:02:13] We're going to go ahead now and dive on into the conversation with Sunny.

[00:02:17] So sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

[00:02:21] I'd like to take the time to welcome my guest tonight, Sunny. Thanks for coming on here and talking with me.

[00:02:26] Hey, what's up guys? It's a pleasure to be on your show. Thank you, Brandon, for having me.

[00:02:31] Not a problem. I was on your show a few months ago.

[00:02:36] We talked a little bit about some of the things that happened with me and then I...

[00:02:40] So I'd like to have you come on my show and talk about some of the things that you've looked into and some of the things you've researched and...

[00:02:46] Here we are.

[00:02:47] Yeah. Well, yeah. So initially I know that we wanted... I was hesitant to talk about paranormal stuff because I didn't feel like I had any but I really had to think about it.

[00:02:59] Actually, I had quite a few.

[00:03:03] But I know you want to... I wanted to talk initially about all the conspiracies and stuff about Aboriginal American and whatnot.

[00:03:11] But I decided not to go that direction today. I wanted to stick on stuff that's more in the lane of this show because I've actually...

[00:03:20] I started listening to your podcast. It just became one of my... It's part of my rotation now.

[00:03:26] So I'm like, you know, it would be cool to talk about that on this show but maybe later so we could get someone that's more knowledgeable about this subject.

[00:03:35] Because I was telling you, I always look at it from a fan's perspective. I didn't do too much heavy music into it.

[00:03:42] I'm like surface level on it. More than surface level but I wouldn't feel confident to just go on every podcast that I go on and talk about it.

[00:03:53] Like I know everything about it so...

[00:03:55] But yeah, let me just tell you a little bit about myself.

[00:04:00] My name is Sunny. Like Brandon said, he was on my podcast that is called...

[00:04:05] Sunny Talks is on the NFNs podcast channel. You can find it on YouTube. I'm sure Brandon will have the links down in the description.

[00:04:13] We're also available everywhere else where podcasts are available.

[00:04:18] About me, I am a 29 year old, falling out.

[00:04:24] And I'm from the Bronx, grew up in the Caribbean.

[00:04:29] Yeah, I mean, not too much about me.

[00:04:32] I got it. I listen to music for a little bit.

[00:04:35] Well, like trying to make music as like most like black young guys in the hood are usually...

[00:04:42] That didn't really go anywhere but...

[00:04:45] Yeah, like, so I mean like I'm pretty much into music, conspiracy, spirituality, religion.

[00:04:53] Not necessarily a religious nut but I just like I'm interested in it.

[00:04:59] I like to look at it like from a history perspective also sometimes.

[00:05:03] But yeah, that's a little bit about me.

[00:05:05] We got in contact with each other, I think is probably towards the beginning of the year.

[00:05:12] And it's just been so chaotic.

[00:05:14] I took the last six, seven weeks off and I just started recording again.

[00:05:17] So I've been trying to get my studio.

[00:05:20] I've been trying to get this studio built and put together.

[00:05:23] I've moved out of the basement.

[00:05:25] I bought a lofted cabin slash barn and I converted it into a recording studio.

[00:05:31] So this is one of the first times I've been out here recording with it.

[00:05:35] So...

[00:05:36] This looks like the exact same room.

[00:05:39] You've got a good job with keeping it like the same format.

[00:05:42] Yeah, it's same style, same idea.

[00:05:47] Oh yeah.

[00:05:48] Yeah, because before it was like a ledge in the back or something, right?

[00:05:52] Yeah, it was a...

[00:05:54] A bookshelf maybe?

[00:05:56] It was the same thing.

[00:05:57] It was just a wall but that was down on the basement of my house.

[00:06:01] Now I'm out in my house and outside and built this thing.

[00:06:06] It kind of keeps things a little bit better.

[00:06:07] I think some of the things I talk about may have some sort of negative energies that get attached to some of the things that I diable into.

[00:06:14] So I figured...

[00:06:16] You know you are...

[00:06:17] Keep all that stuff out of the house.

[00:06:20] It's funny you say that.

[00:06:21] I've heard you say it a lot on the podcast and I think even when we were talking, we were talking about that stuff and...

[00:06:29] My girl would always say, now we're talking to all these crazy people and all these people's problems.

[00:06:34] They bring all that energy into our house.

[00:06:36] God forbid something is trying to get to us.

[00:06:38] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:06:41] But there is something about doing these shows and having people on.

[00:06:47] Even if you just let them speak and you're not really contributing that much.

[00:06:53] There's something about that story being out there now and you being part of it.

[00:06:59] It almost brings you into that experience somehow.

[00:07:05] It's something that is a little weird.

[00:07:08] I like that you moved a little bit outside of it.

[00:07:12] Probably still on the same property but you're there.

[00:07:16] I'm approximately 10 feet away from my garage.

[00:07:19] So we're not attached but I say that but the wiring is attached.

[00:07:23] I don't know if that's going to matter or not.

[00:07:26] If the spirits want to attach to the energy of the wiring and move into the house still.

[00:07:31] There's really no other way of getting around it.

[00:07:33] I always like electricity runs together around here.

[00:07:35] Unless I found property elsewhere and completely moved it to a different piece of property, there's really no way of escaping it.

[00:07:41] At least I'm not in the same house.

[00:07:44] So I can be out here.

[00:07:45] I can talk about whatever.

[00:07:47] My family is in the house.

[00:07:48] My kids are sleeping.

[00:07:49] They don't have to worry about it.

[00:07:50] They don't have to hear me talking in the middle of the night.

[00:07:52] Freaking about having nightmares or whatever.

[00:07:55] Yeah.

[00:07:57] It does get a little weird when you talk about someone and they say,

[00:08:01] I don't know about you.

[00:08:03] My old setup, it was in my room.

[00:08:05] So my partner, my girlfriend would be right over the side.

[00:08:08] She would just hear me talk about,

[00:08:10] oh so what happened with your mother?

[00:08:12] She didn't want to you.

[00:08:15] My girl just looked at me like,

[00:08:16] what the fuck are you bringing into our bedroom?

[00:08:19] Right?

[00:08:21] Yeah.

[00:08:21] Yeah, my kids have heard me say some things here and there.

[00:08:24] I try not to talk about some of the things like

[00:08:27] that we actually experience ourselves because I don't want them listening to me so I figured it would be better to come out here so they don't have to worry about it anymore.

[00:08:35] Yeah, exactly.

[00:08:37] So,

[00:08:39] real quick,

[00:08:40] were you able to get in contact with the guy I tried to help you up with last time?

[00:08:45] We did it.

[00:08:47] Yeah, we got a,

[00:08:49] you got something in the works already?

[00:08:51] Yeah, he actually,

[00:08:52] he was on an episode.

[00:08:55] Did it ever pass?

[00:08:56] I might have missed that word.

[00:08:58] Yeah, it came out a couple months back.

[00:09:01] Oh damn, I haven't got missed it then.

[00:09:03] I gotta go back and check that one out.

[00:09:04] Were you able to go do his show?

[00:09:06] No, he never asked me, I haven't heard from him since then.

[00:09:10] I'm pretty sure he's just busy.

[00:09:12] Just hit him.

[00:09:13] He's always done a happy put on.

[00:09:16] So I haven't really heard anything from it since then.

[00:09:19] I mean, I'm busy, he's busy.

[00:09:21] I get it, everyone, we do a whole lot of things so it is what it is.

[00:09:26] I don't really,

[00:09:27] I don't really get too concerned about going on people's shows to be 100% honest.

[00:09:31] I've actually talked about not doing a whole lot of other shows lately just because it's kind of,

[00:09:36] I don't have a whole lot to talk about other than the stuff that goes on here and I'm kind of tired of telling the same thing over and over and over.

[00:09:43] So it's just kind of like I'm taking a break from doing that for a little bit.

[00:09:46] Yeah.

[00:09:47] And real quick for anybody that may be listening, yes I am black.

[00:09:51] There wasn't a smoke along going on.

[00:09:54] I just moved into a new house.

[00:09:55] There's like some shit here that I don't know.

[00:09:58] I got to find what it is so I could either unplug it, replace the batteries or what.

[00:10:03] I'm also now in the basement.

[00:10:06] Not too happy about it.

[00:10:08] I mean, it's cool.

[00:10:09] I wish I had a space where I could smoke if nobody should smoke in my videos.

[00:10:13] Whatever.

[00:10:15] A little short on the roof to barely making it through.

[00:10:19] But you know, here's what I did.

[00:10:21] I started in my garage and I migrated to the basement.

[00:10:25] Now I've migrated outside into a barn that I have to pay for so.

[00:10:32] But are you rent?

[00:10:33] Is it like a rent situation or are you built?

[00:10:36] It's one of those rent to own things.

[00:10:40] So I have to pay monthly payments for it.

[00:10:45] But hopefully around tax time I'll just pay it off, but we'll see.

[00:10:49] Yeah man, I know what you mean.

[00:10:51] Right now I'm trying to figure out our backyard situation.

[00:10:55] We just made a garden there and that height we put some soil in through some beams out there.

[00:11:02] It's not a sprawling but now so is it three section?

[00:11:07] And the right section is good.

[00:11:09] That's what it being there.

[00:11:10] But the left section and the back section of fucking cats and getting into my bank yard and just crappling.

[00:11:17] It's just ruining everything for me, but I mean some is almost over.

[00:11:22] So I'm just take that as practice and then work on it for the next summer.

[00:11:27] The biggest problem we've had this year has been groundhogs and moles.

[00:11:32] I live out in the country and they've destroyed my yard.

[00:11:35] And the groundhogs they were destroying my barns like not this one, but I have a pole barn out back and I have two goats in the goat barn and the chicken barn and they were living underneath all those little sheds and stuff out back too.

[00:11:48] So it's just crazy.

[00:11:50] People ask like you have a pole barn?

[00:11:52] You have a chicken barn?

[00:11:54] What's the pole barn?

[00:11:56] It's like a 40 something feet by like 30 something feet.

[00:12:01] But all the inside of it is just dirt.

[00:12:02] It's not finished or anything nice.

[00:12:04] So I don't really use it for anything.

[00:12:05] I just store my lawn mower and some other stuff into it.

[00:12:09] So that's got its own power ran and stuff to it.

[00:12:12] I could have done something out there, but it's so big.

[00:12:15] I'd still had to build inside of it to make a smaller room just for using it.

[00:12:19] And I guess I only have some with all the animals and everything else.

[00:12:24] I'm just running in there like rabbits and gophers and groundhogs.

[00:12:29] It's just, I was like, no, I'm just going to get this thing and convert it into what I want to convert it into.

[00:12:35] Hey man, you got to get the goat on the show in some way.

[00:12:39] The goats all back.

[00:12:42] The old devil goat.

[00:12:43] The one that I actually saw, I don't know if I told you the story, but when I first moved in,

[00:12:47] one of the goats that we had passed away because I actually, there was,

[00:12:52] we first bought the place, there was two goats and one of them had horns, the other one didn't.

[00:12:58] But check on them.

[00:12:59] One of the first nights we were down there, the full moon and it was creepy.

[00:13:02] And I couldn't see.

[00:13:03] I wanted to make sure they got put up in the barn.

[00:13:05] So I'm walking and I see this silhouette standing up against the tree and it looks like the devil because I see horns and I see the whole boffamette shit.

[00:13:12] It was a goat.

[00:13:13] It was standing on the side of the tree eating the bark trying to get the leaves.

[00:13:16] But all I could see is just the silhouette of it.

[00:13:18] I was like, oh, that's boffamette.

[00:13:19] I'm dead.

[00:13:21] Not listening around with that, but that goat actually.

[00:13:25] It died a couple of years ago.

[00:13:27] So don't have that one.

[00:13:29] Damn,

[00:13:32] damn bro.

[00:13:33] Fucking goat kick the bucket.

[00:13:36] It's crazy how we, how you just, you saw that, but you were like instantly able to be like, oh wait, that's just the goat's dead in the next to the tree.

[00:13:45] But like a couple of centuries back, that was probably what inspired the whole bafflement or whatever.

[00:13:52] Yeah, that or even the thing that's up behind me over here.

[00:13:57] The Jersey Devil can't really see it.

[00:14:00] But it's a, that was the winged.

[00:14:06] Yeah, because the Jersey devil is like a winged goat.

[00:14:10] Like a pig type of thing, right?

[00:14:12] Yeah, it's like a little horse headed winged thing.

[00:14:16] Have you had anybody on to talk about the Jersey devil?

[00:14:19] I actually did.

[00:14:21] It was a couple months back.

[00:14:23] It was the episode that says the Rock Apes and the Jersey devil on it.

[00:14:27] He never actually saw the thing, but something in that same vicinity like he heard it on the roof and the way the roof was or whatever he said it couldn't have been something jumping from the roof to the other roof.

[00:14:37] He said it was strange that he said it could have been a Jersey devil.

[00:14:41] But again, without actually seeing it, just kind of making assumptions of what it could have been.

[00:14:45] Yeah.

[00:14:46] My manager, he's from South Jersey.

[00:14:50] And I asked him, like, you ever met me?

[00:14:53] Like, you met anybody that met the senior Jersey devil or anything?

[00:14:57] He said no.

[00:14:58] That's his own bullshit.

[00:15:02] I've got a guy that actually did the artworks.

[00:15:06] He's going to be on an episode.

[00:15:07] So he actually might be on the episode before this one even gets released.

[00:15:11] He's going to be, he's from, he's from the area we're going to do an actual in studio recording because he's going to be at Mothman Festival.

[00:15:20] And he did all the artwork back here.

[00:15:23] I got on the wall behind me, but it's great.

[00:15:26] It's crazy.

[00:15:26] I remember you, I don't know if you announced it on my show, but like, you know, I was like,

[00:15:30] when I first heard you talk about that you were going to start doing these outside events and like having hair and you talk about it so much on your show.

[00:15:37] I'm like, well, is this shit coming?

[00:15:39] Because I never paid attention to the actual day.

[00:15:42] Well, the one, the shitty thing is the one I've been promoting the first one coming up actually just got canceled.

[00:15:49] God damn it.

[00:15:50] Yeah, so.

[00:15:51] Wasn't that supposed to be the first one in Iowa?

[00:15:53] No, the first one in Indiana, that one's still going on.

[00:15:57] Yeah, that will be going on.

[00:16:00] It was the one up in Michigan.

[00:16:03] That, it was Big Foot's and Bruce and spirits too.

[00:16:07] That for some reason got canceled and I'm not sure what's going on with it, but I got my money refunded.

[00:16:12] So I won't be that one.

[00:16:14] But the other one, there's still three more going on.

[00:16:17] So I'll be all the three of them here in Indiana.

[00:16:22] But no, I've been looking forward to going out there and talking with people having things set up.

[00:16:29] So see how they turn out.

[00:16:32] Oh yeah, bless our luck to you.

[00:16:34] I'm pretty sure you're going to get some crazy stories in there.

[00:16:38] But so let's just get it.

[00:16:40] So I want to just like start talking about that sounds a little crazy.

[00:16:44] Let me just get into my story about the, just like my experiences with the spiritual and whatever.

[00:16:52] Not necessarily, it was just things I can explain.

[00:16:56] So for me, like it all starts like cliche, like my earliest memory that I remember was like picture.

[00:17:08] You remember like those old school photos?

[00:17:11] I want to say maybe like circus 70 80s.

[00:17:14] It was like a little like RNG 10 to the photos.

[00:17:18] Yeah.

[00:17:19] Okay, so I remember it looking like that, but probably more like pronounced more RNG a little bit more reddish.

[00:17:27] And like, I remember like seeing like what I believe to be my mom, but now thinking about it.

[00:17:35] I feel like it could have been like my sister on like a kitchen floor.

[00:17:41] And like, I don't really remember too much about it.

[00:17:43] I just like that image just like stood out to me like remember like seeing them like a red and then like scan my sister and then like, not really remembering much after that one like then later on like,

[00:17:58] I feel like I started like having memories from like early, early on, because I remember being a like in preschool and stuff.

[00:18:09] And like around that time also, I would have like these dreams.

[00:18:16] And in the dream, it was weird because it's like, it looked like a shopping center.

[00:18:23] And so, so this is at this time I was living in the Caribbean.

[00:18:28] And best example of a pride gave you was like, you remember like in Scarface when they're showing like the like, oh, you're okay perfect.

[00:18:40] You see in Scarface, they'll seen where he almost get killed at the hotel and they're when they're about to chop up his body.

[00:18:47] You see how it's like a like a hotel area but kind of like a shopping complex.

[00:18:52] So the scene, the scenery something like that, the painted yellow and look like a place where I used to go to get my haircut.

[00:19:01] But it was just something different about it.

[00:19:03] Like I felt like oh that's this place, but it was just something off about it.

[00:19:09] The stores were different, different sizes.

[00:19:12] And there was like a magic shop in there.

[00:19:17] And then like any time I will go into like every dream, like every time I'll have a dream, I'll end up at that place,

[00:19:24] walking into the magic shop and just like roaming around.

[00:19:29] And I don't know if it was like inspired by like this song.

[00:19:33] I think it was like this movie they used to be on Disney.

[00:19:36] It was like a scary movie but it had to do with like it was like multiple monsters.

[00:19:43] I don't think it was called the monsters.

[00:19:46] I know there was like a really old one that had like Dracula and Frankenstein and the wolf.

[00:19:53] Monster Squad?

[00:19:54] It was kind of like Monster Squad but it was like a Disney one and it was kind of like more modern.

[00:19:59] It was weird.

[00:20:01] But anyway, it's kind of fun.

[00:20:03] But the main point of the story is like every time I will have this dream about this player,

[00:20:07] I will like wake up and like I'll be like in sleep paralysis.

[00:20:12] And it got to the point where I could kind of like I used to try to do it on the man.

[00:20:20] Like I'll wake up in an early morning, that's about like four o'clock in the morning and I'm like in bed and I'll just say alright.

[00:20:27] Let me try to think of that place go there.

[00:20:31] And nothing ever came from it.

[00:20:33] But I will also see like shapes and like shadows and stuff so then I started thinking like oh,

[00:20:41] because that's when I was like the cliche like,

[00:20:44] there in an oh that's when a witch or a ghost sits on your use, have to sleep paralysis thing.

[00:20:50] And like that stuff was like it went on for like a couple years.

[00:20:55] And then like it really stopped.

[00:20:57] I never really saw like a ghost ghost when that was happening but I would see like the shapes.

[00:21:03] But like granted, I didn't live right next to a church and across the street from a grave.

[00:21:09] So maybe they had something to do with it.

[00:21:14] But so that stuff stopped happening.

[00:21:17] I didn't really have like sleep paralysis.

[00:21:20] I want to say it from like eight to like very recent like probably I want to say like three years.

[00:21:31] It just started happening maybe through the pandemic during the pandemic.

[00:21:35] It was started happening to me and it will freak me out because then like it was like,

[00:21:41] I mean like anybody would probably get scared.

[00:21:43] We look you wake up and I can't breathe or nothing.

[00:21:46] It was like while I'm going to sleep it'll happen.

[00:21:51] And it used to creep me out because then like I'll just start like,

[00:21:54] like trying to scream and then I'm like,

[00:21:57] now my girl just like gets freaked out and like pushes me and then like it helps me and then I'm like,

[00:22:03] but the reason I bring that up is because my damn I think I'm all over the place.

[00:22:09] Well, let me just finish that part.

[00:22:11] So the reason I bring that up is because I had a guest on I try to have a my yoroshan.

[00:22:21] I don't know if you ever reached out to him.

[00:22:23] His name is escaping right now Drake and he would explain how you can when your experiences

[00:22:31] experience and sleep paralysis, you can actually use that to ask for project.

[00:22:39] And he was telling me that all you have to do is like give into it and let your body drift away.

[00:22:44] And I was like, like even after having that conversation with him,

[00:22:47] I think it happened to me after that.

[00:22:48] I'm like, still like wake me up.

[00:22:51] Make me move.

[00:22:53] If I don't want to get into the actual run by those means,

[00:22:56] like if there's another way I'll do it,

[00:22:58] I'm not going to just like get into this whole like,

[00:23:02] okay, I can barely breathe right now.

[00:23:04] I'm just not going to fight it and just drift away.

[00:23:06] Cause that sounds crazy.

[00:23:08] I don't know about you, but I'm not sure.

[00:23:12] Every time I have some sort of sleep paralysis and I don't ever think of it as sleep paralysis,

[00:23:18] but it's happened to me often.

[00:23:21] I just wake up and I can't move and then all of a sudden I can move again.

[00:23:24] So it's like, I feel like I'm just not fully awake.

[00:23:27] I don't like my brain's not awake yet.

[00:23:30] And I, I, I, I equated to that too.

[00:23:33] Cause it also happens to me while going to sleep.

[00:23:36] So it's like, I feel like all right, my body is like falling asleep and my brain is still functioning.

[00:23:41] Maybe that's why I'm like in this like, uh, stuck in this phase.

[00:23:47] Cause like, all right, I'm gonna fall asleep fully.

[00:23:50] My body's already asleep.

[00:23:52] Oh shit.

[00:23:52] What's going on?

[00:23:54] It's weird.

[00:23:56] I know a lot of people correlate with sleep paralysis.

[00:24:00] Like you're being interacted with, with some sort of different type of entity or different type of energy or whatever.

[00:24:09] But I don't necessarily know if that's 100% accurate or not because I don't ever feel like something's there feeding on my energy.

[00:24:15] I mean, maybe it's possible, but for me, it just seems like I'm sleeping or I'm right at the edge of sleeping and being awake.

[00:24:23] And my body's just not fully like understanding what's going on and I can't move.

[00:24:31] But the thing that fucks with me the most is when I have a dream and I usually start flying or falling.

[00:24:43] And then I wake up in the middle of that and I slam into the bed.

[00:24:48] I was like, was I just levitating?

[00:24:49] I was like, just jerking like it's every time I wake up.

[00:24:52] I just jerk.

[00:24:54] It's like I fell in bed.

[00:24:56] Something that I really just leave my body and I just fell back into my body.

[00:25:01] So that always kind of messes with me when that happens.

[00:25:04] But again, that happens just about as much as me not being able to move.

[00:25:09] And I've never took anything into that other than just being asleep.

[00:25:12] But the more I've been doing this show and the more times I've talked with people, I talk about sleep paralysis.

[00:25:16] I mean, maybe I do suffer from sleep paralysis.

[00:25:21] I just never knew that.

[00:25:22] Never even really heard of it before to the last few years.

[00:25:25] Yeah.

[00:25:26] And it's crazy because like getting into all these type of things,

[00:25:30] what I listen to people talk about also having people alone that discusses like sometimes they say like you might be traveling to these places and you don't even you're not going to remember.

[00:25:41] It is like it's almost even like how like your dreams are like they're just like fleeting memories.

[00:25:48] As soon as you wake up and it's like, oh wait, did that really happen?

[00:25:51] The other day I had a dream.

[00:25:53] And I think the only reason I remember it was because I watched the video that kind of was similar to it.

[00:26:01] Like I was doom scrolling.

[00:26:04] Randomly saw this video of God taking a snake out of a pool in the backyard like in Florida.

[00:26:10] I thought asleep have a dream.

[00:26:12] I'm walking in the mud room, like coming in from the backyard and there's two snakes in the mud room.

[00:26:19] Like what the fuck.

[00:26:20] And then I went on during the day and then by like two o'clock.

[00:26:24] I think that's a dream about two snakes in my fucking house.

[00:26:29] What's going on?

[00:26:32] I mean like it is weird that stuff is kind of like tricky because then like some people say yeah, you control it.

[00:26:39] You can ask for a project.

[00:26:42] It's weird because like I just finished reading like the emerald tablets and he's talking about it.

[00:26:46] And it's weird because like in the book it says like, oh, say this these phrases and these things.

[00:26:55] I'm not allowed to say that.

[00:26:57] Even reading the kinds of things can look creepy like this.

[00:27:00] Like this is a spell.

[00:27:02] Am I putting a curse on myself?

[00:27:04] Am I allowing myself to be entered by entities?

[00:27:12] Because a lot of the time still is like you we may not know that we're giving away permissions and certain things.

[00:27:19] Yeah, I actually.

[00:27:22] Whenever I feel like something is attack on me or like they may be something around.

[00:27:27] I just randomly like hey, you don't have the permission to be here.

[00:27:31] I do not accept you.

[00:27:33] Like I just start saying whatever but always I got up in the name of Jesus Christ because apparently that works.

[00:27:39] I've been doing that in the house and to be honest we haven't really had any issues.

[00:27:44] But since the last time we spoke.

[00:27:49] So where I'm at is my desk and this desk used to be down in the basement.

[00:27:53] I actually just got the other part of the desk today so I put it together so I have a now of the wrap around desk all the way around me.

[00:28:00] Okay, big money.

[00:28:03] But this desk.

[00:28:06] I came down and.

[00:28:10] I was letting something like I was basically working on an episode so I was letting it kind of edit itself.

[00:28:17] And to go outside and do something when I came back downstairs I noticed there's a couple dead flies on the desk.

[00:28:23] I'm like that's weird.

[00:28:25] And I started looking around all around the desk.

[00:28:28] Was dead flies they weren't there like 10 minutes ago.

[00:28:31] There was over 24 and he was like 27 flies I think I went up counting dead on my desk.

[00:28:37] All the same green metallic flies and they were not there earlier.

[00:28:41] Where in the hell did they come from and that quickly I actually have pictures where I collected them all in a couple I actually still think the flies are somewhere around here I don't know if they're still in the basement or where I put them but I didn't get rid of the flies I kept them.

[00:28:53] Why you keep keeping these momentum.

[00:28:56] You get me upset bro.

[00:28:58] Where's the fucking balls at the dog.

[00:29:00] And now this is not.

[00:29:02] Oh no you got rid of the ones.

[00:29:03] Yeah I got rid of the tooth.

[00:29:05] I actually I talked to someone that's actually into the whole UFO thing pretty big he's been doing it for over 50 years and he wanted me to go look for that tooth so I could send it to him.

[00:29:17] I was like man I threw that motherfucker out in the field I can't find it now it's gone.

[00:29:23] But no the flies I think I may have put them out in the garage somewhere I put them in a container and I kept them because I was like.

[00:29:29] I learned my lesson from when someone said to get the find the tooth and I get rid of the things anymore so.

[00:29:35] The little flies I kept I can't that never happened again.

[00:29:39] So it's just strange and I actually just did an interview like a day or two beforehand I talked about stuff and I said nothing has been going on like so knock on wood and we're all good here.

[00:29:48] And then two days later all the flies are all over my desk they were nowhere else but my desk.

[00:29:53] That's super weird twenty seven flies at that something about the 27 number.

[00:30:01] You know they have a 27 club I was watching some videos with I don't know if you've ever heard of Gary the numbers guy.

[00:30:10] I think I've heard the name but I'm not familiar with it's a big numerology guy he predicted for the whole bunch of shit.

[00:30:17] He's usually on the bigger shows.

[00:30:21] But the reason I bring him up is because you they asked him about like that.

[00:30:25] Oh what's the whole thing with the secret societies in the 27 club and the number 27.

[00:30:31] Now when I can't disclose that in the air.

[00:30:37] Something really machetes about that 27 so.

[00:30:40] Yeah there's a.

[00:30:44] I talked to Brad Lale from the 30.

[00:30:49] 33rd parallel there's a lot of weird things with the number thirty three two.

[00:30:53] So.

[00:30:54] Oh nice you had to do three I think I've heard him on the show.

[00:30:59] Yeah he was on a Mark show and he was on this show and he's been on I think he's on ten full had he's been on several different shows.

[00:31:08] But.

[00:31:10] I.

[00:31:13] When it comes to numbers and all sorts of things there's a lot of weird stuff when it comes to it I understand how people find it and they find it interesting my friend.

[00:31:21] He's all about and I know it's because of it all stems from the whole Q and on or whatever bullshit but.

[00:31:30] They always use the number 17.

[00:31:33] And.

[00:31:35] If you like pay attention to a lot of weird things like you watch movies and if you listen to certain like they reference number 17 quite a bit.

[00:31:44] Like.

[00:31:45] The 17th floor.

[00:31:47] Or going into room 17 like there's that number does pop up a lot and I don't understand like stuff from like the friggin eighties have it in there I was like I don't know what the reference would be to that number but they reference that number quite a bit.

[00:32:01] I mean if you really like well from all of my 10 for activities or conspiracy were hold I've come to a conclusion that it's all just like the all following.

[00:32:16] I wouldn't.

[00:32:18] I wouldn't say like her medical principles but they're all following like these esoteric rituals and like they get they get translated and and adapted by different groups as like and I feel like it's always like groups that are empowered and who's empowered right now.

[00:32:39] Hi rappers, rapper learn power right these rappers and you guys got to get with the program.

[00:32:43] Oh start pumping out stuff with this.

[00:32:45] All right just do that no worry about nothing.

[00:32:48] And we're because we're pushing out this message and this programming into the world.

[00:32:53] And it's like I hate that.

[00:32:59] When you try to discuss like conspiracies and like the coincidences with people like that are like super like normally they're like bro what are you talking about here.

[00:33:07] Here he goes his conspiracy theory.

[00:33:10] The scene is right in front of our faces.

[00:33:13] And now it's just weird because I just feel like everything.

[00:33:19] I think most of the time is like revelation and that they let us know what they're going to do before they do it.

[00:33:25] Then it's also like it plays like multiple roles because we're revealing it what we're going to do is part of like the universal laws.

[00:33:34] And also we get to discredit the crazies because we're putting it in their face and then they're going to point it out.

[00:33:40] And then like other people are going to believe them or whatever.

[00:33:44] It's almost as if they have to announce what they're doing.

[00:33:48] Yeah.

[00:33:49] The revelation of the method as part of the universal law.

[00:33:52] So in order for them not to have karmic retribution they have to tell you we have to announce that.

[00:34:00] All right we're going to blow up this street and we're going to whatever random XYZ building and whatever time.

[00:34:10] All right can someone work on this cartoon and put that out there five months before it happens.

[00:34:16] And once it happens because they said so the whole theory behind the revelation of the method is that since they already revealed it before they did it.

[00:34:25] They don't get the karmic retribution because it's like we we accepted it because it was already put in front of us.

[00:34:33] So we basically agreed to whatever their plan or what they put out in front of us.

[00:34:38] I see people relate a lot of current things and they say the Simpsons predicted it.

[00:34:44] And I don't know if that's just all made up crap or what but they always show like little pictures and they claim us from like this episode or whatever.

[00:34:52] And like the Simpsons were predicting and this and I was like I wonder if that's just them doing exactly what you just talked about.

[00:34:59] Like that's their way of saying things way in advance.

[00:35:04] That way they don't have to deal with it like we already told people it's not like we're lying about it.

[00:35:09] Yeah I mean there's a lot of things like that.

[00:35:11] Like I don't know if you ever heard of the Illuminati card game like even that type of stuff like it was a car game from the 80s and it predicted a whole bunch of shit that was going to happen.

[00:35:22] But apparently the way that the card game was developed was it was like some game maker and like he was like into conspiracy and stuff.

[00:35:31] Like I guess he made like a call to act like hey you guys were fans right in a whole bunch of conspiracies and now use them for this book.

[00:35:41] And then after the book he ended up making it also into a card game.

[00:35:45] Hmm.

[00:35:47] Yeah.

[00:35:48] I do know.

[00:35:49] There's a world-class member.

[00:35:51] There's one of the specific cards in there is called is like about Trump and shit.

[00:35:56] And then like after there's even like it's called like the sniper and and it shows like Mark like shooting and then like the guy in the picture.

[00:36:08] Weirdly enough looks like Trump and he's also doing like that.

[00:36:12] That was a perfect photo opportunity I mean.

[00:36:17] Yeah.

[00:36:17] That's too much awareness in there we can go to 100 rabbit holes.

[00:36:22] I don't even know too much about the situation but just like how the fuck the like 2024 this like sorry but it's like you and he like white kid like climbed up to that fucking roof and just shot the former president.

[00:36:40] There is so many different things that I don't even want to go down into it.

[00:36:45] We kind of talked about it a little bit.

[00:36:47] I released an episode the other day and I end up losing a bunch of followers from it because I probably insulted people because they don't.

[00:36:56] I try not to go too political on this show but there was an actual episode of crinkle conspiracies and I released it under 10 foil tells because no one really knows what crinkle conspiracies is unless they go over to the patreon.

[00:37:07] But I threw it out for 10 foil tells and I'd lost like I think maybe 12 to 15 people follow me on like whatever and it's a.

[00:37:20] I'll take it on this not let's not ruin this one.

[00:37:24] Is there anyone that knows me knows that I'm not political one way or the other I think they're all cut from the same cloth for the most part and but anyways, we kind of talked a little bit here and there about it and there's just like.

[00:37:37] So many different things of there's no way some random.

[00:37:42] Asked kid just got to climb up there and do that with there was photos floating around before he even done anything like people were taking pictures of me climbing and just laying up there like.

[00:37:54] It's like.

[00:37:56] Whatever pops this like moving people away and not going.

[00:37:59] Yeah, and then the whole the flag flying in the background with a fist free as like that is tell me this isn't.

[00:38:06] The most amazing photo ever that wasn't planned and how patriotic I was like that's so fucking bullshit.

[00:38:14] And then apparently the new conspiracy is like I don't know if you saw Trump was on a he was on that kid a roster stream he was telling me that how Google altered the this in the picture Google altered the face expressions of the security guard.

[00:38:33] Of the secret service and made them look like they were happy that they were smiling while he was doing that thing.

[00:38:39] That's not how they were.

[00:38:40] They were very upset Google Google altered them.

[00:38:45] What the fuck are we how fake photos fake news fake everything.

[00:38:51] The world is a stage.

[00:38:53] Yeah bro definitely.

[00:38:56] No basically.

[00:38:58] I was going to say something a little bit ago and I got sidetracked and I forgot what I was even going to say but.

[00:39:04] I don't remember now.

[00:39:06] They didn't have anything to do with any of that stuff.

[00:39:09] Okay.

[00:39:10] Oh, I know I remember what it was.

[00:39:12] Okay.

[00:39:12] When you mentioned Illuminati anytime that gets brought up on an episode.

[00:39:16] And I just had this brought up because the other day the episode was about the Freemasons and Illuminati and a lot of other stuff.

[00:39:26] I don't know if you had a chance to listen to the newest episode that came out.

[00:39:28] But the lady that was talking on there.

[00:39:35] It got demonetized instantly because it said the topics on there were not suitable for advertising or anything like that for their ad.

[00:39:45] So they do demonetize that video.

[00:39:48] Well anytime I have a conspiracy related episode YouTube demonetizes me.

[00:39:55] I just got I just got off a suspension like a month ago because they banned me for a week because of an episode.

[00:40:02] So at some point I'm probably not going to be on YouTube much anymore because they keep so I've been slowly trying to work on when I get the time to start moving things over to rumble.

[00:40:11] Just because the whole YouTube channel at this point is probably got to go down the chit-hole.

[00:40:18] We'll speak on that after what exactly was she talking about that.

[00:40:22] I don't even you know it's weird about the whole Illuminati Freemason thing like my uncle is part of it and I was kind of trying to grow him.

[00:40:32] I'm like hey so what's it about he saw me on that.

[00:40:35] He was like yeah bro it's just a group of men will make men better and I was kind of like okay I saw the little way I see where the homophobic rhetoric comes from but I'm like okay that sounds interesting.

[00:40:50] He's like oh yeah there's no Illuminati.

[00:40:53] There's no devil worshipper.

[00:40:55] You have to believe in God.

[00:40:57] But then he was interesting to go like any guy.

[00:41:01] You have to believe in some type of God to be part of this.

[00:41:06] Interesting.

[00:41:08] They don't.

[00:41:09] I don't think they're not everyone involved in it is involved in it that deep because most of my family are involved in like the local chapter or whatever and they're not out.

[00:41:23] Not out doing that they're not partly Illuminati.

[00:41:27] That you know of.

[00:41:28] I mean if they are then they need to come over here and hook it up because I'll join the Illuminati too.

[00:41:36] Give me the family discount or something.

[00:41:39] That's why I was talking to Mark about it.

[00:41:41] I was like oh god I know uncle is part of it.

[00:41:43] He asked me if I wanted to join and he was like are you digging what am I doing?

[00:41:48] I don't know bro.

[00:41:49] Because that's the thing I would never.

[00:41:51] I'm interested in that but he's just like bro that feels like I don't want to be no real life and that shit.

[00:41:57] If you guys want to do it somewhere I'm not that with you.

[00:42:01] I don't think they even have like anything they might have like a monthly or something meeting they got to go in there for but I think it's just like basically old guys that go in there and have like a beer every now and then and that's about the end of the year.

[00:42:13] That's what I'm assuming here.

[00:42:14] I don't think they do anything like at least not in these.

[00:42:18] Odunk little areas of society.

[00:42:20] It has to be like the ultra rich.

[00:42:23] Yeah.

[00:42:24] Member there like 33 degree.

[00:42:28] Yeah.

[00:42:29] The people that are above level 30 something.

[00:42:32] Yeah.

[00:42:33] And in order to get that way you have to be pretty well off or very connected with people in power.

[00:42:39] But I think the first level entries are not going to be privileged enough to know all of the inner work into how the society works.

[00:42:52] Yeah.

[00:42:52] Because from what I know this is all about knowledge.

[00:42:57] And so one thing I was reading the emerald towers and I'm like you're definitely a Mason Masonry has something to do with this because it's like.

[00:43:07] And the emerald towers are talking about like the longer universe or whatever.

[00:43:12] And then like it ends in a OK.

[00:43:14] He ends in here.

[00:43:15] They are right now.

[00:43:17] I told you this now hide it from the world and only the only the righteous will know that you guys have to recruit.

[00:43:25] Okay.

[00:43:26] Hold on.

[00:43:26] This sounds familiar.

[00:43:27] You guys are hiding stuff in the world.

[00:43:29] Is this what it is?

[00:43:31] A lot of things I think it hidden in plain sight and most of the people are too naive to pick up on it.

[00:43:36] Like we said earlier with the hidden messages you see in cartoons or TV shows or anything like that.

[00:43:41] Like it's all out there but we're just.

[00:43:43] Yeah.

[00:43:44] And this is like the random show.

[00:43:45] This is like every show has to do this.

[00:43:47] Every show has to reference this.

[00:43:49] This all see an eye and like some of them like the older ones used to do like a lot of Shriner stuff.

[00:43:55] Like there used to be like a random character that had like a Shriner.

[00:43:59] What the fuck.

[00:44:01] We just had the local parade here a couple weeks ago and the little Shriners come out riding their little.

[00:44:06] They have little motorbikes that they ride around on my wife's like you should go join them.

[00:44:10] I was like I'm not joining any little society thing like that.

[00:44:14] Not just because I want to wear silly little hat and ride around the little undersized motorcycle so I could crash in the middle of the parade.

[00:44:25] I'm too big for those.

[00:44:26] I'm over six foot three so like trying to ride on a little tiny bike I'd look goofier and shit out there.

[00:44:35] Yeah.

[00:44:37] Oh, maybe one day maybe one day I'll take the lead.

[00:44:40] But even though I told my girl that she was like a little like no just super against it.

[00:44:45] And I'm like no you have to.

[00:44:46] And I mentioned you have to keep secret.

[00:44:48] She's like wait what?

[00:44:50] What secrets are you going to keep away from me?

[00:44:52] I guess I can't be joining this.

[00:44:55] Can't join a secret society if you can't keep the secret.

[00:44:58] Yeah.

[00:44:59] There wouldn't be a secret society if everyone knew about it which I think it was just funny because when you hear about stuff.

[00:45:05] People have all this information about secret societies and all this.

[00:45:09] I was like well if you know all this information is clearly not a secret because you're out here pumping the world with all this information.

[00:45:15] So who gave you the information?

[00:45:17] Yeah, I do have a book.

[00:45:18] I meant to send it to my uncle like hey what happens to a book that talks about all your free Masonic?

[00:45:24] Is this even accurate?

[00:45:26] Can you even tell me yes or no?

[00:45:29] Someone actually a long time, it was about 20 something years ago now they actually had a book out that basically was trying to describe all of what goes on with the Masons and how it basically pinpoints it to them being Satanic.

[00:45:42] I forget the name of the book but it was, I know several people that were talking about it like over 20 something years ago to family members.

[00:45:52] You remember something that, and I saw a clip, I think it might be talking about that and they were saying how like they prayed to this whole other guy and it was a specific name.

[00:46:07] I got to find that because I mean they said it to my uncle like hey what's this about?

[00:46:12] Yeah, they claim the G inside the Masonic, like the Masonic symbol or whatever they claim is for God.

[00:46:19] But they claim the actual God that they're worshiping is not the God of Christianity, it's like a different God and I forget.

[00:46:27] The great architect.

[00:46:30] I forget the name of it but it wasn't the God of Abraham or whatever, I don't know what the actual term would be for that God.

[00:46:40] Even like, even getting into that, like I told you, I remember last time I was telling you that I was starting to read like the Bible and stuff.

[00:46:48] And I was just reading something about like Genesis and just like small world and like bro like he literally described it like alright.

[00:46:55] I had to, it said like God cut open Adam's side, removed the rib and then sold it back up.

[00:47:04] And I went what the fuck?

[00:47:05] Like if this is a magical guy, why are you doing a medical procedure?

[00:47:09] Like what's going on?

[00:47:11] When you start looking at it from a different perspective of that, like I can turn the Bible into the woo-woo side of craziness but like think about this aspect.

[00:47:28] Eve was not Adam's first wife.

[00:47:31] Lilith was.

[00:47:32] Lilith and Lilith was, I don't know the whole story what happened with Lilith other was she was just evil.

[00:47:41] That's what they tell us.

[00:47:42] I don't think she was evil at all.

[00:47:44] But.

[00:47:45] They said she was a subservient.

[00:47:47] That's why we needed someone that came from her.

[00:47:49] And she would be subservient to him.

[00:47:52] But she was killed off and then different variations she became like.

[00:47:59] Suck your bitch.

[00:48:00] Yeah, like a demon or whatever.

[00:48:03] So how do you know where to?

[00:48:05] I'm about to finish my bad story.

[00:48:08] No, you're positive to say how do they know that she turned into that like again like but I can go back to that here in a second.

[00:48:15] It's just um.

[00:48:18] They're just a my interpretation, especially after reading like.

[00:48:26] Da Vinci coalition.

[00:48:28] I think I just feel like the guys is going to stop me.

[00:48:32] I think they would just be in massage.

[00:48:36] That's like they literally just hated women and like.

[00:48:41] It's my side.

[00:48:42] I don't know what I forgot where I saw them or like I heard it but it was just like apparently a Mary Magdalene was supposed to be like the head of the church and then like Peter was like not having it.

[00:48:54] Yeah, but then like they made it into this whole or and like you're gonna like they just are ways to demonize women.

[00:49:01] And then like is when because then I have a king, not a king.

[00:49:05] Yeah, I have a King James version of the Bible but it's not the King James new version of like a King James version.

[00:49:12] Not original but like an older version and in the Genesis before it gets to like it says and then we created man and women in our image.

[00:49:24] And then it's like comma or then it ends and then it's been and then created Adam and from Adam.

[00:49:31] Adam and Adam was lonely and we created a woman from the room.

[00:49:35] And I'm like, wait, but hold on.

[00:49:37] Didn't it just create matter when before you created Adam?

[00:49:41] Why do you gotta take a rib from Adam to create a woman when you already had one?

[00:49:46] Yeah, and then they said in our image.

[00:49:48] So it's like wait who's our and it was man and woman in our image.

[00:49:52] And then it gets into that like oh there was a female version and that gets wet the way also.

[00:49:59] A lot of people interpret that towards the Anunnaki and that's kind of what I was going to go with a little bit ago is when you hear Eve again.

[00:50:09] Eve obviously disobeyed God and ate the forbidden fruit and gave us free thinking everything but who manipulated her.

[00:50:20] It was a serpent.

[00:50:22] And God punished them by removing their legs and making them crawl on their bellies.

[00:50:29] Well, if you're thinking about it in this aspect, it was a quote unquote reptilian talking to her giving her that knowledge.

[00:50:40] I said that's where you go on the roof side.

[00:50:41] You can say well, that was the evil reptilians they claim here that are here to feed on the negativity and that's there's so many different things that how anyone can interpret the problem.

[00:50:52] And that's kind of why it's so valuable in different aspects and

[00:50:55] It's kind of weird to this day.

[00:50:58] But it says like oh and what part of the punishment is like you're gonna roll around like you're gonna crawl on your stomach and like every time her offspring sees you they're going to bash you into the ground and like I don't really see like I can see like maybe in the past like

[00:51:15] I don't think that's like a natural thing.

[00:51:17] He was want to kill snake.

[00:51:18] I feel like we usually run away from them.

[00:51:20] So is it even a snake that we're talking about?

[00:51:23] Right.

[00:51:24] I don't even know the context for how that again, the Bible was written by men and

[00:51:32] And I'm no expert.

[00:51:33] Sorry.

[00:51:33] Yeah, I'm saying I'm wrong.

[00:51:36] I'm no expert anyone knows that I'm just a guy with a microphone but just from the little bit that I think I may know and probably don't know.

[00:51:44] My own opinion on the situation would be

[00:51:48] Everything was written by men and I think it was written as a means to control.

[00:51:53] You've even mentioned it before like most women in there are demonized and

[00:52:01] If a woman does something wrong, the men have permission to stone her to death.

[00:52:07] Like out in the street because she looked at another man and you have permission to brutally murder your wife.

[00:52:13] It's just the Bible is really brutal, especially towards women.

[00:52:18] And I feel like between the Old Testament God and the New Testament God.

[00:52:24] God changed his role a little bit too because the Old Testament God was firing brimstone.

[00:52:30] You pissed me off and wiping you all out.

[00:52:32] Yeah, even that's a whole other like thing turns like there's multiple theories is like the Demirge and and then it's the other guy and then

[00:52:43] So then I saw so then this is a Demirge thing and then I saw there's like this whole other theory where it's like the God of the Old Testament.

[00:52:58] Was basically like he was the offspring of like the mother God and the father God or the mother God or something.

[00:53:06] And then like he won he went off and made his own universe and then that's when God came in and like they wanted to correct the world and then that's when Jesus comes in.

[00:53:18] Because then it's correct and the things or whatever.

[00:53:24] It's just too much because it's like that's why I kind of love and hate conspiracy because it's a new story but it is a new story.

[00:53:32] How can I tie this into like the main narrative and just a lot.

[00:53:37] I've always brought this up and I know it irritates people but if you look at it in that concept God had to have given

[00:53:47] Like God made evil if you believe in the Bible regardless of what anyone wants to say.

[00:53:53] If God created the angels God knows everything we only have free will because we ate the forbidden fruit you ate the forbidden fruit.

[00:54:03] Did angels not have free will and how do we're the angels able to rebel against God?

[00:54:08] How did the devil do how to Lucifer like in the other angels like the fallen angel?

[00:54:13] How did they because God would have had it known they're gonna do this because he was a great creator.

[00:54:16] He knew everything before it ever happened.

[00:54:19] So therefore he knew it was gonna happen when he created them.

[00:54:22] Yeah, you know is he aware that because then it's like when you read the Bible kind of make us feel like he's not all all knowing.

[00:54:30] Because it is like and the story with K and A well he comes down and he's like hey where's your brother at?

[00:54:36] And it was just like like the humorous and that is so like what the fuck like you really he really sat up there and told God

[00:54:44] like what am I my brother's keeper?

[00:54:46] How am I supposed to know?

[00:54:48] I don't know like what they just the idea like to us and make some crazy like who are they even really talking to them.

[00:54:56] They could talk to what we perceive as God like really how I know this is why people believe in like the ancient.

[00:55:05] Astronaut theory or whatever but what if what they were interpreting as God was just someone that had a higher power, higher intelligence and people say oh is he in an hockey.

[00:55:14] They came down here and they designed us.

[00:55:16] Yeah, but definitely related.

[00:55:20] I feel like there's definitely something going on there.

[00:55:23] I don't know if God is the God that we think God is.

[00:55:26] I definitely believe there is like a creator.

[00:55:29] Yes, so like the whole Anunnaki thing I think the God that we think is and sorry if I'm getting it wrong.

[00:55:37] I think it's L is the one that we think is like our version of God will be L which is what are the names in it because it's L but it's also something else.

[00:55:51] What are the two is Anki and and Lil and Lil and Anki so I know what are they supposed to be like the evil one.

[00:56:01] But it can and then it could also still be interpreted as the new testament God whole testimony God you get it because it what are they supposed to be like vengeful and stuff.

[00:56:09] They still like someone caring about us.

[00:56:13] All right.

[00:56:14] I feel like when it comes to that, I don't know.

[00:56:22] I just don't necessarily believe everything that was written.

[00:56:25] I think they were inspired by things that happen but I don't necessarily because how many times it's been rewritten.

[00:56:31] I actually talked to someone else from another conspiracy podcast and when I said the Bible had been rewritten they're like no it hasn't.

[00:56:37] I mean there's different versions of the Bible.

[00:56:40] Your King James version you have your NIV version like they're all interpreted differently and then I actually talked with Juan from the one on one podcast and he said that there's 45,000 different denominations of Christianity alone.

[00:56:56] So clearly they're like I didn't even know there's that many.

[00:56:59] So if 45,000 different denominations interpret the Bible differently and it's all been rewritten different times by different men that push their whatever agenda they're wanting to push the Bible is literally just there and uses as means of control.

[00:57:17] Yeah I mean that's just like insert marginalized community want to press here and rewrite it.

[00:57:27] I think usually how we go.

[00:57:29] Yeah.

[00:57:30] I don't have anything against people that are religious.

[00:57:34] I grew up in a religious household.

[00:57:37] It's just as I got older I started looking at things that didn't make any sense and I'm not saying that it's wrong.

[00:57:46] But it's just not how I live my life these days and I get a lot of people giving me a lot of crap because the stuff that I've experienced and they're wanting me to have people come out and bless the house I need to do this I need to have Jesus I need to have all this other stuff and I was like I mean what if that doesn't work.

[00:58:08] Yeah.

[00:58:09] I don't think it doesn't change anything.

[00:58:12] So.

[00:58:14] And that kind of feel like.

[00:58:17] That's what I mean to also like just around this one up because I know we almost had an hour we're probably hit an hour already.

[00:58:24] No.

[00:58:26] Um, I had me personally like growing up I was a I felt like I had resentment towards like church and stuff because.

[00:58:39] Because I was forced to go but then like as I got older I grew an appreciation of from like learning and remembering the passages and like when a story coming up.

[00:58:50] I remember that from so they school like it kind of like re sparked my interest and just like looking for the word itself like now going for the community and the people or whatever because a lot of people they go for that.

[00:59:03] I never liked that part of it because then like.

[00:59:07] That's where you see all like imperfections of man and like all those things are what drive you away from church and it's like the judgment and then like.

[00:59:21] And it sucks because you're not supposed to be judged by them because only God's supposed to judge it.

[00:59:27] But they're also judging you and then if you don't have enough money for the time and then you all this.

[00:59:33] I don't know what this is like why are you doing why am I even doing this?

[00:59:37] Where did this say in the Bible that you had to give so much money to the church?

[00:59:42] I don't think it's something that's part of the Bible.

[00:59:45] They don't find like you know how they always have like their extra doctors and that's why I think.

[00:59:50] It might be like a pulp of the careers and shit.

[00:59:53] I've always said that too is like why does God need money?

[00:59:57] Why does God need 10% specifically of your net income?

[01:00:01] Yep.

[01:00:03] Again that's a very lucrative business.

[01:00:09] But I mean I guess I gotta just tell the story before you're wrapping up like why was like my ghost storm.

[01:00:19] Storm to wrap it up.

[01:00:23] This is when I had first move like me and my girlfriend have first moved in together.

[01:00:28] We were like in her old building but we moved to a different apartment.

[01:00:32] It was weird because the apartment that she was living in at first when I first met her.

[01:00:38] It was apparently a priest lived there or something.

[01:00:44] That's what they were the room.

[01:00:45] She kept telling me a priest lived there.

[01:00:48] She's not in that apartment though.

[01:00:50] So and so her old room when she was living there with her roommates.

[01:00:55] It was like the study.

[01:00:58] So it was kind of like in the living room but they just have like real doors.

[01:01:03] They had like like swing doors, swing glass doors.

[01:01:09] And I always feel like there's a weird vibe when I was up there bro.

[01:01:13] And I always would feel like someone was looking at me.

[01:01:17] And I never really had too much crazy things happen to me there.

[01:01:23] But matter of fact I think that might have been when my night terrors started happening again.

[01:01:29] When I was up there.

[01:01:32] And yeah actually that is when it started happening again.

[01:01:37] That's when it started happening again.

[01:01:39] But I never saw anything like lately out.

[01:01:44] I remember those as one word.

[01:01:46] Like I felt like I saw something but I feel like that happened all the time.

[01:01:49] I don't count those technically.

[01:01:52] But we ended up moving out of that apartment.

[01:01:55] We moved downstairs.

[01:01:57] Like in a bigger apartment.

[01:01:59] So we moved to a different apartment.

[01:02:01] That was the bigger apartment.

[01:02:02] It was like a duplex.

[01:02:04] And there was a staircase in the apartment.

[01:02:11] So at this time I'm sleeping in the living room.

[01:02:17] And because my stepdaughter was over there.

[01:02:19] I think this might have been like the first time that I met her or whatever.

[01:02:23] So you know typical stuff like she's in there with her mom and I'm gonna go sleep on the couch.

[01:02:30] And I'm sleeping there.

[01:02:32] And I wake up in the middle of the night.

[01:02:35] You know when you wake up in the middle of the night and just like look over.

[01:02:39] I look over.

[01:02:41] And I see our kid you not.

[01:02:45] And I've never seen the movie.

[01:02:47] It's just from like pop culture influence that I know what it looks like.

[01:02:50] And I see this grudge looking character standing at the doorway of the of the living room.

[01:02:58] And I'm like days you know you wake up in the middle of the night and like not fully there.

[01:03:03] You don't have all your faculty so I'm just like oh I see her.

[01:03:07] I'll just call her Ashley.

[01:03:08] Hey Ashley go back to the room.

[01:03:10] Go back to where your mom.

[01:03:11] I'll turn right around go back to sleep.

[01:03:14] She like gives me no reaction she just didn't stand it.

[01:03:17] I'm like alright whatever we're back to sleep.

[01:03:20] Wake up in the morning and talk to my girl.

[01:03:22] Hey y'all is Ashley usually get up in the middle of the night like that.

[01:03:27] And what she never got out of bed.

[01:03:29] She never gets out of bed.

[01:03:30] She doesn't even wake up because you have a full blow argument in the room and she won't wake up.

[01:03:36] And this is something I learned after not because of the argument.

[01:03:39] She literally had a heavy ass sleep but like nothing to wake her up.

[01:03:43] And I was like what the hell am I doing?

[01:03:46] And then I tell her my girls creeped out.

[01:03:49] She never wants to talk about it.

[01:03:52] She's like she never wants to talk about it.

[01:03:56] She never had to experience herself.

[01:03:59] And a couple months go by I don't see nothing really.

[01:04:06] We ended up getting a roommate and now like the roommates living in the living room where I was sleeping at.

[01:04:13] And then she told me that she heard.

[01:04:17] Remember I told her it was the stairs.

[01:04:19] She's sleeping in bed.

[01:04:20] And she says that she felt like she saw like a kid like peek in.

[01:04:27] Because it was like a curtain peeking through the curtain and then like run up the stairs.

[01:04:31] She heard like the footsteps on the stairs.

[01:04:34] But the weird thing is when you get to the top of the stairs and go where they go.

[01:04:38] Because it was like closed off at that time.

[01:04:42] So super weird.

[01:04:45] So that happened.

[01:04:47] And she's creeped out.

[01:04:50] She would already see it if they after that nothing really happened in the house other than like me see like shadow.

[01:04:57] But I quit that to like me having bad eyesight.

[01:05:04] But right before we left right before it moved out.

[01:05:11] The month before it moved out I went to Georgia for like a family reunion for my family.

[01:05:19] My girl's brother was dog watching basically how citizens they could walk the dog and stuff.

[01:05:26] And he was down in the basement apparently we're leaving now.

[01:05:29] Like we have about this point we already have moved upstairs we have both floors.

[01:05:33] But really enough all these things always happened in the basement.

[01:05:37] He moved to where he was in the basement and he was smoking in the bathroom.

[01:05:42] And there were these three car the swing doors but not glass they're like actual doors.

[01:05:50] So it's like like shutter doors like shutter doors.

[01:05:54] Yeah shutter doors and but there's the swing open and it basically divides the bathroom from the room to the room has two entrances.

[01:06:03] Like accordion doors.

[01:06:04] Yeah yeah yeah like accordion doors but they were just doors that they swing open.

[01:06:12] Almost like the old saloon doors.

[01:06:14] Yeah like the saloon doors but like two actual doors like holding together.

[01:06:20] And bro he says he was smoking and out of nowhere the doors just swing open.

[01:06:27] But I'm telling you there's no way like these doors like if they were closed there's no way they're just swinging open.

[01:06:32] It's not like they're they're like loose like they like they'll even like rubbing together that to the point where I was I almost had to stand them down so they won't be rubbing against each other.

[01:06:45] Yeah it'll be easy to close.

[01:06:46] So there was no way that like they were swinging open and then he said he said that happened and then like his hair is just like gonna pick me was like super creeped out.

[01:06:59] My girl trying to say it like man I mean like a mouse or something.

[01:07:03] The mouse one I've done that swinging on the mouse is not swinging the door open.

[01:07:09] Oh damn bro am I at?

[01:07:11] Look at that.

[01:07:13] So you mentioned the mouse obviously I've had weird instances with mice but the other day I brought up my lawn mower to put gas into it and for some reason there was a towel on the seat of the lawn mower.

[01:07:26] I didn't think anything about it.

[01:07:27] I figured whoever wrote the last just put a towel on it so they didn't have to sit on the seat as I'm putting gas in frigging mouse pops its head off from under the towel and then just jumps off and runs out into my garage.

[01:07:37] So I was sitting on that damn mouse the whole time from the barn all the way to the garage.

[01:07:44] So yeah.

[01:07:46] Okay.

[01:07:47] My spirit is trying to get up your ass.

[01:07:49] Yeah I don't know.

[01:07:51] I'm glad it waited till I got off the lawn mower to get up and I didn't look down there the mouse sitting on me and I didn't freak me out.

[01:07:57] I didn't let it crash the mower.

[01:07:59] Yeah.

[01:08:00] That's great.

[01:08:02] Yeah yeah I mean so for me like that was kind of like the I mean other than I feel like I sometimes I feel like I see things here and there but I kind of feel like maybe you just like do you know the human brain like tries to get up your ass.

[01:08:19] And makes an answer for things.

[01:08:21] So I feel like maybe sometimes like especially at work I feel like I see things that is because like I work like a warehouse is big aisles maybe there's like a broom in the corner and me walking my room quick and looks like the silhouette of a body and stuff like that.

[01:08:36] Yeah I mean I've been like trying to see things like you know I want to see shit.

[01:08:42] I'm not going to make it up also and that's kind of why they're like I didn't mention that I was first I was full.

[01:08:50] I don't see that girl taking the house.

[01:08:55] Yeah.

[01:08:55] I don't know what that was.

[01:08:56] Yeah.

[01:09:00] Is that my man?

[01:09:13] I'm probably going to wake up and I'm trying to punch in my kids because they've just here to grab by the for me.

[01:09:19] Like I don't understand why kids get so creepy sometimes but like I've woken up before and my stepsons been in our room he's just standing in the door was like what are you doing?

[01:09:29] I can't sleep.

[01:09:30] No why are you watching us?

[01:09:31] Like that happened like several years ago but like he doesn't do that now but he was probably like six or seven at the time I was like why are kids so freaking creepy?

[01:09:43] Just like watching.

[01:09:44] They're just like creepy.

[01:09:45] They see stuff though.

[01:09:46] I don't know what it is.

[01:09:48] I said it on my part guys but my son, I guess it's like the only thing that used to happen upstairs was my son.

[01:09:57] He would look around his room like in weird ways and I was putting him down to sleep and it just always creeped me out bro.

[01:10:07] To the point where I had to act with him so I'm like what are you looking at?

[01:10:12] And he's like he said a name bro.

[01:10:15] He said a name and that shit kind of creeped me out.

[01:10:19] He said something like, Elias.

[01:10:22] I was like what?

[01:10:24] Bro it creeped me to fuck out because he barely was talking at the time so I was like what the fuck is he doing?

[01:10:29] I don't know if I've ever heard that name.

[01:10:30] Who the fuck is Elias?

[01:10:32] And then he just like looked at me and then like whatever and then the following day like I was like just kidding with his mom.

[01:10:41] I am or you want to tell your mom like how about Elias?

[01:10:44] And then he looked at me like I'm not supposed to tell her about him.

[01:10:50] And that's who like what the fuck?

[01:10:54] Yeah, that's like my kid and I think I told you on your show like her imaginary friend named Chloe.

[01:11:02] Like she's two years old.

[01:11:03] She shouldn't even know a Chloe.

[01:11:07] And then my other my son just this past winter saying ghost like he barely even spoke.

[01:11:12] And that was one of the first things he's taught him about as ghost.

[01:11:15] Like how the hell you know what a ghost is?

[01:11:18] Oh there actually is another development also.

[01:11:21] So remember I was telling you about what's he like these orb things in the room?

[01:11:26] There was one night and I like this orb thing that kind of went towards the direction and he kind of like started freaking out after the day.

[01:11:34] He started like he woke up in the middle of the night and started yelling and I should clean me out that night.

[01:11:38] I mean I laughed because you know usually just like oh it's just dust.

[01:11:43] That was weird and then like you know what also makes me think like reincarnation might be real.

[01:11:51] Like well I would just play with my son the other day and he had like this toy drill and just like just like casually like I don't know just fucking around like I like lifted it up and like pointing it towards him.

[01:12:06] He like looked down and was like like ducking like cover and said I'm like whoa how the fuck you know what a gun is?

[01:12:14] Right.

[01:12:14] I'm like you never watch anything about no gun, you've never seen nobody shoot.

[01:12:19] Like how do you know this knowledge?

[01:12:21] Is this passed down in DNA?

[01:12:24] I honestly think some of it kind of is because even my kid we didn't he's never really been around guns but he knows what a gun is because he's like

[01:12:36] like toy guns he calls them Monk Mox and he would shoot.

[01:12:41] He would act like he was shooting at you.

[01:12:43] He's never watched anything I didn't play games at shot or anything like that around him so but he said Monk Mox and he said Monk he talked about a gun and he wants to go like Monk Mox like he's shooting at you with it.

[01:12:53] Yeah that sounds like a gun.

[01:12:57] I mean what a kid might interpret a gun to sound like.

[01:13:00] Yeah.

[01:13:01] But now he's calling Monk Mox.

[01:13:03] Well that's what?

[01:13:05] That's weird.

[01:13:06] Yeah.

[01:13:08] Does he have any weird brick bar for her?

[01:13:12] No not that I'm aware of.

[01:13:14] My son has a big mark on his back.

[01:13:16] I'm like damn little Timmy you got shot in the back in the past like.

[01:13:20] I don't.

[01:13:24] He doesn't have anything weird like that but it's um my daughter still will randomly say she she'll come in our room.

[01:13:33] She's five but she'll come in our bedroom and say she's had bad dreams and I always ask her what was she dreaming about.

[01:13:40] And then she'll never tell me.

[01:13:43] She just said they were bad dreams like where's your I don't remember but I know they were a bad dream.

[01:13:50] Like.

[01:13:50] That's me.

[01:13:52] So I'm just I always try and find out what they're dreaming about because they tell me some really crazy stuff.

[01:13:59] I'm like all right I gotta go through the house again.

[01:14:01] Go fight some aliens or whatever the hell's bother.

[01:14:05] I have no idea at this point.

[01:14:07] Yeah I mean that's type of shit is crazy bro especially like getting into these shows and like listening to these like tales and then like

[01:14:16] certain kids get abducted and then like it's weird because um something like uh I guess like what are the characteristics when you get abducted they knock your partner

[01:14:27] or whoever's in the house out like to the point where they can't wake up and then it's like it's creepy after like that's kind of how I'd be when I'm sleeping.

[01:14:36] Yeah if something happened in the house but I can't wake up I can't move or anything like that.

[01:14:42] It's weird too because I get I used to be so skeptical about a lot of this stuff but anymore I'm like I can't be skeptical because

[01:14:52] there's too much coincidence I don't really believe in coincidence.

[01:14:57] And it makes me wonder is like when my kids have a nightmares or something really coming and taking her.

[01:15:02] You know what I mean? It's like I get like protective dad modes.

[01:15:06] I'm like I'm gonna lay weight a motherfucker when it comes in there I'm gonna punch you in the nose or something.

[01:15:10] I don't know what to do.

[01:15:12] Yeah I'm definitely like super scared of this shit but also like as like get more into it and then I start like

[01:15:21] realizing that the spiritual side to it I feel I have a strong feeling that these MPs or whatever they are

[01:15:29] they can't technically hurt us unless we're we give into their fear.

[01:15:37] And I feel like if we just evolve like if we just like if we say hey you can't hurt us I believe in God and stuff like that.

[01:15:45] Like not to be cliche about it. I know it sounds like oh you're pushing God on us.

[01:15:50] I'm not super religious God. I just feel like if you believe that you can't be taken and they can't hurt you.

[01:15:59] I honestly feel like they can't do it.

[01:16:02] There's something about like in the Bible it says like the devil can't create anything for his minions and stuff like that.

[01:16:09] It was just like there's something to it bro like these things like there's too many accounts of people have been abducted

[01:16:15] and they say like hey I evoked the name Jesus Christ and these entities just left me all of this and that.

[01:16:22] I mean if I go to the last thing something through it.

[01:16:25] Yeah I don't.

[01:16:27] I feel like there's all sorts of connections one way or the other.

[01:16:31] I think all religious aspects too I think paranormal to aliens to cryptids.

[01:16:37] Like somehow one way or the other I feel like everything's connected and I don't know how to describe it.

[01:16:41] I don't know how to explain how it's connected.

[01:16:43] I just feel like there's all some sort of correlation with it.

[01:16:48] Yeah I mean I've been thinking about doing a show like that.

[01:16:52] Just trying to find the correlations and everything.

[01:16:57] Because I definitely do think everything is related.

[01:17:00] When I was reading the Quran and weirdly enough when they were talking about like the same parts of Genesis

[01:17:07] when they're talking about like all the things that Abraham and stuff.

[01:17:11] Wait how do you think?

[01:17:13] Just like the different.

[01:17:14] I saw them looking at the Bible like this is like telling us the story of the world

[01:17:19] like how different parts of people went into different areas and these are all the certain of all these people.

[01:17:25] They live over here but they worship the cow.

[01:17:29] And I was like what the fun way is that hinders?

[01:17:31] It was not about me.

[01:17:33] Yeah.

[01:17:35] It is strange to me if people want to believe in like the religious text of any sort of religion or whatever

[01:17:44] but like it doesn't explain how everyone is spread out across the whole world.

[01:17:53] And then it doesn't explain how you had pyramids in Egypt.

[01:17:57] You also have pyramids in South America.

[01:17:58] You've had pyramids all over like all over the world.

[01:18:02] There have been pyramids that popped up.

[01:18:04] What was making people decide to evolve themselves to want to build pyramids?

[01:18:09] There's thousands of miles of oceans between a lot of these civilizations

[01:18:13] and yet they're all building pyramids around the same time frame.

[01:18:17] Yeah.

[01:18:18] That's weird because I remember I was talking about the Admiral Thomas.

[01:18:21] He talks about that stuff and he basically saying that he created all of that.

[01:18:27] Like because that whole book could be all bullshit because it comes from a tab

[01:18:35] but that was translated or whatever.

[01:18:37] Yeah.

[01:18:38] Who really knows where that is?

[01:18:40] Because then he talks about like oh it's just all like remnants of Atlantis.

[01:18:47] There's a lot.

[01:18:48] Another theory that I recently think like I kind of like now is the theory

[01:18:54] that Genesis millennial reign already happened.

[01:18:58] We're actually living in the time of the devil.

[01:19:02] That's why like the world is so fucked up.

[01:19:04] The world.

[01:19:05] Apparently.

[01:19:05] The tribulations.

[01:19:07] Yeah.

[01:19:08] So that's why like when Jesus comes back it is going to be like a final war.

[01:19:13] Because right now we're living in Satan's domain.

[01:19:17] That's why the world is so divided.

[01:19:20] I interviewed a guy named John Kerwin and he'd mentioned that too.

[01:19:27] He thinks this is the era that we're living in.

[01:19:31] Okay.

[01:19:33] But yeah.

[01:19:34] Isn't that right?

[01:19:36] Yeah.

[01:19:36] I mean it's possible.

[01:19:38] I don't know.

[01:19:39] Yeah.

[01:19:40] But I feel like we could be here all day.

[01:19:42] I don't even think this was like a regular some full tales.

[01:19:46] But I'm just like we get it done.

[01:19:48] We always do another one.

[01:19:50] Yeah.

[01:19:51] Anytime you want to we can get some scheduled but no.

[01:19:54] I enjoy having different types of episodes.

[01:19:58] I enjoy having conversations and it changes it up.

[01:20:01] So that works for me.

[01:20:02] We talked about a lot of things that I've enjoyed talking about.

[01:20:05] And the audience out there gives them a break from hearing some of the normal stuff that we do.

[01:20:12] So it's always good to have something different every now and then.

[01:20:15] You've had a lot of Sasquatches.

[01:20:18] Yeah, that is a lot of the things.

[01:20:23] They're the most popular shows that I have for summer.

[01:20:25] Those in dogmen shows are usually the two that get the most interest.

[01:20:30] So I think I have a lot of cryptid fans out there.

[01:20:32] But I don't want the whole show to be focused on that just because my whole concept was basically talk about anything.

[01:20:45] Anything that's weird.

[01:20:46] Anything that's outside the normal that we know of or what we consider normal.

[01:20:53] A lot of people I think have experiences with strange things but they don't ever realize it.

[01:21:00] Yeah.

[01:21:01] I think it's also kind of like human age that are like shrug it off and put it away because I don't want to be judged.

[01:21:09] I've thought about this recently and I've been on a few other shows and I've talked a bit about more things that happened to me when I was younger.

[01:21:18] Things that I didn't think things that I thought were like scary as a kid and as I grew up I was like well I was just a kid.

[01:21:26] But now that I've been doing this show and I've been going back into those memories I was like you know what?

[01:21:32] Maybe what I actually thought I saw was really what I actually saw.

[01:21:36] It wasn't my imagination.

[01:21:40] So I brought this up on a couple of episodes recently.

[01:21:45] Usually it's around the time frame of kids being around six to eight years old when they start having weird experiences.

[01:21:51] Usually when it's UFO related alien related for me it was strange little humanoid things.

[01:22:02] And I was about six, seven, eight years old when all that stuff started.

[01:22:07] I was afraid that there was a monster down in the little wooded area, the gully area we called it.

[01:22:13] Because we'd seen it.

[01:22:14] It came out and chased us as kids.

[01:22:16] We all ran away from it because we were all terrified of it and I was like well I couldn't have been real.

[01:22:20] There's no such thing as that.

[01:22:22] But nowadays I'm like I hear people talk about book what Jesus shit all the time.

[01:22:27] Humanoid things so it's like who knows.

[01:22:32] But it is just strange because when people actually would go back, anyone listening would just sit there and think about some of the weird things that happened to them as kids growing up and you wrote it off.

[01:22:44] But go back to those memories and actually start to think did you really just imagine on it or did it really happen?

[01:22:50] And then it will actually start making you question it and you'll start going back deeper and you'll start to realize that you probably had a lot of experiences that you wrote off.

[01:22:58] Yeah man there's a lot of stuff that we can't explain bro like dreams.

[01:23:02] There was a, I don't think it was you were sure it might have been a Marx show or maybe even Tim Foucault hack.

[01:23:09] There was a guy talking about like how dreams all do like premonitions and stuff like that.

[01:23:16] I actually had a guy that guy on Drake he mentioned that a little bit but he was actually saying he referred to it as like deja vu in a way.

[01:23:27] But he was saying like how he used it to change the outcome of the situation.

[01:23:35] It's a lot, it's so much.

[01:23:39] Definitely want to get back on the show again whenever you can have it.

[01:23:43] Yeah.

[01:23:44] I want to get on Crinkle too man.

[01:23:46] I need to get on Crinkle experience with you but I feel like that's more of a, a side need type of show.

[01:23:53] Well, we don't ever have a schedule for when we do that but let me talk with my co-hosted and we'll figure something out and we can definitely have you on with us.

[01:24:06] We talked about it the other day it'd be cool to have someone on and have a guest on there be our first crinkled guest.

[01:24:11] Alright definitely man I would be honored.

[01:24:14] Appreciate you having me man.

[01:24:17] Make sure you guys follow me at study, s-u-n-n-y period, nycc on Instagram.

[01:24:28] Also follow the podcast Instagram at nfsperiod on Instagram.

[01:24:37] Follow the YouTube channel nfspod, nfspodcast sorry.

[01:24:45] Yeah man and I appreciate you having me on the show again.

[01:24:50] I know I wasn't a typical guest but you know I feel like hopefully it was entertaining for the guest.

[01:24:55] If you guys enjoyed anything I talk about check me out, hit me up.

[01:24:59] I'll be glad to chop it up with you guys about any conspiracies.

[01:25:04] Put me on to some religion stuff if you guys want to or whatever.

[01:25:10] I will make sure to have links for everything, Twitter your stuff so anyone listening right now can just go into the notes and it'll take you links to Sonny's Instagram and his YouTube channel.

[01:25:22] But you're also, it's not just on, you also have it available like on Spotify and other platforms too.

[01:25:28] Oh yeah yeah it's everywhere it was on Spotify, it was on Google I think Google podcast is done for.

[01:25:35] Yeah Google's gone now.

[01:25:37] So yeah Spotify, it might be on SoundCloud I could check.

[01:25:44] It's definitely Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon I think it's on Serious also because like the app I use, I use an anchor podcaster.

[01:25:57] They just shoot it everywhere but then it's weird because I feel like don't even tell you where your shit is doing anywhere else.

[01:26:05] It's on Spotify so I feel like it's kind of, like I feel like my show might be bigger than it might be and then I just don't know about it.

[01:26:15] Well that is what it is.

[01:26:18] Well for anyone listening to Tenfoil Tells wherever you're listening at you can probably find Sonny's show we're in the same place you listen to my show so.

[01:26:28] Yep.

[01:26:29] But we're going to head on out so again thanks to Sonny, thanks for listening and good night everyone.

[01:26:40] And that's the show everyone I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations.

[01:26:44] If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tells remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tells podcast at gmail.com or go to the contact section of TenfoilTells.com

[01:26:54] Just get your message to them and we'll get some schedule for future episodes.

[01:26:57] And just remember the truth lies in the stories we share, the connections we make.

[01:27:01] Stay curious, stay open-minded.

[01:27:03] Thank you all for joining us on this journey and until next time keep questioning, keep seeking and keep exploring the unknown.

[01:27:09] Good night everyone.

[01:27:24] The truth is out there like an alien spark.

[01:27:28] You have all sightings got the whole world shook.

[01:27:33] Conspiracies unfold like a story in a book.

[01:27:37] Media control trying to keep us blind.

[01:27:41] But I'll be full, gonna use my own mind.

[01:27:46] In history they want us to know the secrets they hide.

[01:27:52] The truth they won't show.

[01:27:54] Down in our society they keep us in chains.

[01:28:01] But standing tall it's time to break the reins.

[01:28:06] Media control trying to keep us blind.

[01:28:28] But I won't be full, gonna use my own mind.

[01:28:33] In history they want us to know the secrets they hide.

[01:28:38] The truth they won't show.

[01:28:41] Down in our society they keep us in chains.

[01:28:48] But standing tall it's time to break the reins.