Ep. 110: Sierra Sounds to Quantum Bigfoot with Ron Morehead

And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And he begins to tell them that he saw Ufo. They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Wright. Tonight we're gonna be joined by my guest, mister Ron Moorehead. Anyone familiar with the Bigfoot community should know who Ron is. Back in the early seventies, they captured some very incredible evidence of vocal patterns from what is to believe to be sasquatches chattering back and forth with each other. The Sierra Sounds is what it's been known to be referred to, it's been studied and researched through, and it's always held up. It's one of very incredible piece of evidence. Before we bring Ron on. Though you've ever had an experience and you'd like to be on an episode of ten Foil Tells, there's two things you can do. You can go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to the contact section, or you can email me at Tenfoil Tales podcast at gmail dot com. Either way works, Just make sure you to reach out and get your message to me. We'll get something to go to for a future episode. If you would like to help the podcast out, please continue to share it. Every time you share the podcast, it opens up a new avenue for a potential new guest to come on. 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It's which you can find more information about those in the show notes. The other two events in October free to the public. All the events are all ages, and again I'll have my recording rank at all the events, along with some shirts and some books and some other things. So make sure to stop by my booth talk to me for a little bit if you would like to talk on an episode and get some scheduled or bring a record right there. But I think now we're gonna go ahead and bring Ron on. Ron's been on my quote unquote bucket list for guests to talk to, so I'm definitely looking forward to diving in and talking with him. He's pretty much like the godfather of the big Foot community these days, so I'm really excited to talk to him. I really hope you guys enjoy the conversation. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show like six time, and welcome my guests tonight, mister Ron moorehead Ron, thanks for coming on here and talking to me. Well, thank you, Rondon, and I appreciate your invite and look forward to it now. Definitely pleasure. I've I don't mean it to like it sound assaulting, Arder, but you're like the godfather of the Bigfoot community for most people, so it's an honor to have you on here. Because the Sierra Sounds or whatever for anyone listening if they don't know who you are. Basically, I've heard the Sierra Sounds years ago because it's always been one of the right after Patterson Gimmlin like that was the next thing that came out. So it's kind of a little bit of surreal knowing I'm talking to the person that had the Sierra Zunes recorded, like it's a huge thing in the Bigfoot community. Yeah, it seems like it. I had no idea when this was happening to us, and it happened to us more than once in the Sierra Nevada Mountains of California that would evolve into something like this, And I want to be talking about it because we we thought of them just as an unidentified ape in the woods. And when this coming on our camp at night, and and but we started recording them and getting some interesting vocalizations out of it, that wasn't so we took an investigative reporter in there in nineteen seventy two that that he started, and he was looking for a hoax, actually trying to figure out who could be fooding at eight miles in the wilderness, eighty four hundred feet in elevation, way up the mountains and really imposing trail posing place to get to. Once you get there nice, so you just feel like laying out on a hot rock and enjoins joined the one. It's nice. But anyway, he fostered the studies on the sounds after he recorded them to see if there was any fun making, any maliciousness at all in them, and sent it to him. He finally found a guy at the University of Wyoming, doctor Lynn Kerlin, who studied them unbiasedly for a year and gave a paper on a report and presented to the Aarthro Polsy unknown in British Columbia Academia all about what Academia's there, and showed that they were speaking They did have a language, by the way. We kind of that out later, but he said that he's a sound engineer, by the way, very profile on several papers he's written, and he said their language or whatever they're speaking is outside and inside the human range, the average human range. And one little bit that he studies represented an animal right foot tall, So that kind of made everybody perk up a little bit. But academia seems to have their mind made up that it has to be a room to the gigantapithecus or something something out there. Couldn't have something like that anyway, It's quite quite a deal to have that done. In nineteen seventy eight, I think was when he gave that report, came out a book man like Master's on trial. And it wasn't until two thousand and eight too. We had a crypto linguist get a hold of them and by accident actually, and he dove all the way out from Missouri. We're we're teaching languages in a college there to interview us just to see because he thought he heard thought I heard the language in it, and we didn't realize how significant that was. But I found out that having language, by the human definition of language like we're talking now, is very unique. It's unique to only humans know that animal and face this planet, according to doctor Philip Lieberman at the Brown University of Cognitive researcher scientist. He says, only humans have the vocal mechanism, which is a hide bone tongue into the nervous system, which does you bring what to say and what you can say what you're seeing. In other words, dolphins communicate, everything communicates, but not with spoken language like we do. So to me, that puts them in a that puts a human component in them, because if only humans have that ability, and these things have that ability, and that's been established now by our recordings, then there is a human component to them. So there's been two different geneticists that I know of that have found in the meticondo DNA human and Academia has given them thumbs down because if it's human, it has to be contaminated. Well, no, it doesn't when you get deep into it like I've done now for the last fifty years, I studied all the way I brought up me back up at I was brought up very religiously, and I had new scriptures and I knew the Bible. So my first place when I encountered these things up there in nineteen seventy one was I started researching biblical texts for giants and where they came from, what they're doing, Could they be here? Now? I didn't really give me answers. So I got into the Book of Beinook, which is not canonized, but it's an Ethiopian Bible, which has eighty eight books instead of sixty six, and that took me a little ways back further. But then I had to find out where spoken language really started, and I went in all the way to Mesopotamia where the Sumerians were, and it gets me into the cuneiform con aniform texts, which I suppose it was given to them by the Ananaki. So that takes a seating deeper into the subject. I don't know if I'm getting head of or not, but always I'll just keep going to ask me a question. Now, you're fine, Like I always, I just let let you talk anyway. The sounds have been study excessively. There have been no debuccing yet because there wasn't a debucking. And uh, it's been that program. The proof is out there, given green light. Another sound experts given green light, and also another languist which was heard him years and years ago, said so they're talking to each other. Well still, she didn't have time to give us a full written report like doctor Curlin did. Like Scott Nelson Day the Crypto Language, who was a two time graduate of the of the Military Institute of Foreign Languages in Monterey, California, and he had his whole career in the military was transcribing sounds as a code or a language that's unknown of what just to see what it could be, and then transcribing it. If there was a language, what could it mean. And he after he came out in two thousand and eight and interviewed as he he wanted to study him too, So he went back and came back a few months later and said, these things have a language, So there you are. That that kind of puts the human component in him. Where everybody's out there looking for the eight in the woods, and that's what we were doing for a long time because they looked like an ape. They act like an ape until they start talking that they're not like an eight. That's their rocks too, so that's not like an ape. I did right. The one question I wanted to ask before we get anything else, what originally had you guys going out there? Like? Well, like you went out there and you heard the noises and everything, what actually was the real reason you guys were out there originally when you had your first encounter with it, Well, that's where I should have started. And yeah, there was five hunters altogether. They were all my friends. I wasn't one hundred at the time. But two of the brothers, the Johnson brothers, went up early in the year and encountered this something. They thought it was a bear at first because they'd been frequenting that site and hunting that site that since nineteen fifty eight, so quite quite an imposing area. But like I say, this never came out without the game that they had at tag for. And so they came out with a story about some kind of a monster up there to the other three guys, and they all went back up to see what would happened if theything's still around, or see what it could be because like I say, they were all going to churts. They're all kind of religious minded, I should say. One guy who got up there, he just got freaked out with the sounds because they sound pretty aggressive when they first encountered them in seventy one. And he left to note next morning he said, I got it out of here. He was just frightened, really out of his wits almost, and he went back down the valley where the families were, and he talked told the wise what the Johnson brothers said. Up there's tree. There's some kind of monster up there. And they said, well, you got to go back. The guys aren't out, and they said, I came out by now, I never wun't know if they've been eating or what could have happened to him, they got killed or because they didn't know, they didn't know what they was dealing with. Bigfoot was not on anybody's radar at the time. So hunting camp that's what they went there for. And so so I'll go back, but I'm not going to go back by myself. So that's how I got involved. And I knew them, and he asked me to go with him, so I went with him, got in there. The guys are okay, so we I saw my first track. I heard some of the cordy they took a taper go up, so I heard the recording they made. And anyway, I started going back up as much as I could, get somebody to go with me, and I just started visiting the camp as much as possible, and I did for years and years. I'd go up there just as office as I could. But anyway, my story, the only thing that makes it unique is the fact that it's not is my word. We got the science behind these sounds that we recorded when they're outside the human range, and what frequencies I can get to, we don't know because we weren't recording and prozontle. All we had was cassette recorders, so that's all we hauled in. That's all we used, and that's always available at Portal then. But we've got some pretty good recordings and that's what I wrote about and that's what I've recorded produced. So that's how I got into it and been chased it ever since all the world. I've been into Peru, Blivia, I've been into Nepal, I've been into Siberia, Russia quite a bit. Of a run around chasing the scenali. It's just a pretty unique once it gets a hold of you, and once you find out we were experiencing some of the things up there too besides just the vocalizations. And that's that's what it gets me into looking deeper, because whatever these things are, they they're unique and they know things we don't have evolved into or something because they just seemed to be basic. Get around ever trap, your trick, ever trick you try, actually say the right way to put it. And uh, we set up the traps, camera traps, all kinds of things trying to get a picture. Never could never could trick them that way. They'd go around the camera trap like they knew what she was doing. We couldn't believe that, but they would, or they bat the camera off with flash to go off. And so we didn't know what was dealing with until really even now we don't know for sure. But I got some pretty good ideas after seting this thing over the world and and if any way, and what's going on with us because we had we had like I heard a car door slam right out there side. How do you explain that when there's no cars gonna even possibly get up there, and then well, whatever's making sound, it wasn't a car door could have nice. They could hear to herd of horses running down towards camp or something that's not that happening. You know, we had horses up there, but they were tied up. And sometimes I thought hear a big metallic sound outside this daytime. Sometimes you go out and look and you can't find the source of It's just a big wooly sound. And another time we thought our camp was being tore apart, the sound of cans and everything else from the barrels that we'd hold in on our horses mules, and we had them strapped down their kosman night. But that you think something's tern apart, and you look out there later when all the horse is done and nothing's changed, Well, where do you put that? How does your brain fit? Excuse me? The conditioned brain that we have, it's something we're born with and we it's taught what we've what's been taught through screwing, through the people that's raised us. We're all conditioned to believe certain ways. So your brain tries to fill in those holes when with what it does now and that was happening with us. We're trying to figure out what could could this be? How could that possibly? Could they be hypnotizing us all? Could they? How do they do this? What they're doing? Lights would follow us around. One time I saw I did, I saw UFO coming down from up there on the time I got lost it behind the trees. But this was all the all the big stuff was happening in the early seventies. It kind of continued on from seventy one seventy two all the way into seventy six, and then the close up stuff stopped. After that. We only had distant stuff happening that we could hear, and we have maybe lights happening that we couldn't identify, but we didn't have the vocalizations coming out close to us anymore. But then nineteen seventy six we shot a baron camp which was turning up our barrels, turned up our barrels, but our packs full of food that we'd packed in on mules, and we didn't want that, so we had to go out and run it off and ended up coming back a couple of times. The third time it came back, we went out with our guns loaded and it reared up. We were just going of it didn't run off that time. It came back at us. So we shot it and then skinned it out the next day. And it's kind a weird looking thing. We to skin out a bear. It looks like a little person. And I say, a little person wasn't little. But they're strong and there. They can be aggressive, but they're not like a black bear is not generally aggressive at all. They'll scare away. You know. We see a lot of bear up there, and I like the grizzlies up in Alaska or the brown bear. Anyway, things still happened. The last time something happened with me was in twenty eleven. I say, the last thing I heard vocalizations was in twenty eleven, and that's why the things happened that night too. I was up there by myself, which really shouldn't do, but I've been up there three times with the crypto linguist trying to get some more sounds that we could record, and nothing happened. Well, he had to go back to work in Missouri, so I I said, oh, I got to go back up and find out they're still around, because nothing we could firmly identify things happened, but nothing could really that. I put my hat on, you know that I can really affirmed it was a big foot and he he left. Okay, I went back up. I had a guy Scus go with me, but he backed out the last minute, so I was in good shape. So I walked in and uh stayed there. I turned up power bars last me for three days. And that afternoon I heard a big wop, a big tree knock. I thought it was at the time right outside. It was a little ten i'd set up, and I started, Uh, I went out started talking to it because it was definitely one of them. I mean, I say definitely, I didn't see it, but you rarely see these things. And that's I got some science behind why you don't see him too. Here in a few minutes we'll talk about that. But uh, anyway, it stopped. It never came out and let me see it like I asked it to. And uh that night I checked out my tape recorder had all brand new lithium batteries and and everything working fine. Well. Ten o'clock that night I heard the chatter going on and I tried to record it. My batteries was dead. Said record wouldn't work, and I heard this thing drop around right at the side of a tent i'd set up, and I started talking to it again from inside the tent, and I said, don't not to come back here at night and scare me, because it's a little bit concerning. You don't know what these things are going to do, but you know they're huge and they can do pretty much anything they choose to. About that time, but all I had was a little thirty eight with a bird shot in it screwed the bear off case it's a bear, And I never considered shooting one of these things unless I was attacked. And we usually all always carried high power guns with us, but the last few years up there, I didn't feel like I needed that. So anyway, I didn't get sleep that night. Whatever it was walked up outside my tent, bipedal dog or walking. I never heard it go away, but it must have went away because it didn't make any more sounds. About four o'clock that morning, I heard this metallic sound going on outside my tent. I write about this in my first book, Voices in Wilderness. It's my chronicle of doing this stuff. And anyway, this metallic sound was really strange. I couldn't remember and I couldn't record it. And as soon as the sun came up, I folded up that little tent I sleeping in, and packed up by power bar and turned bok out. But I think that one walking around my sauburry there where my tent was. I think he was looking for food, because we used to leave food out all the time. I always have, and that night I didn't because I really didn't start the stove up heap. I didn't have a fire going that night, just me and I thought these things already around because when that wood knock happened, which I thought was a wood knock, it was still daylight out side, and that's that's kind of unusual because it's now in Nott. Respect. I look back at how loud that was. I'm not sure it was a wood knocker. Talk gun going out right next to my tent. I said, you heard metal sound? Does it sound like metal scraping? No? No, it wasn't metal scraping. It was metallic, like a electrical Uh. I can't even explain it. It was just I was hoping I remember that i'd be able to record or something, but I couldn't just metallic sounds and it wasn't metal scraping, but it was just I don't know how I was explained. I've heard other people talk about when they've had experiences, not just like with sasquatch, but other things. They say they hear like a metallic sound, but it's almost like something scraping, almost like a metal door, like scraping against something. Well, it could have been some of that. I again, I just can't put a finger and I just know I was making notes that's what you want to do when you're not like that, and I wrote down metallic and that's what I remember, metal sounding lexical all together. So what it was I don't know, but it was sort of different and nothing up there would have made that sound that we know of. So anyway, this has taken me into our lifelong research of this phenomenon all over the world, and I come to some kind of kind of some conclusions that they're not all the same, these things or not. You can't just say bigfoot and cover everything. It's around the world, like a Nepal and China and the different places sea where they have encounters they say with the wild man and all that stuff, well, they're not the same that their personalities aren't the same, they don't have the same type of tracks necessarily, and it gets gets me into the deeper part of where we came from, what we're all about. And that's why I was asking earlier how spurusor you were because there is other dimensions. I got to write my second book, The Quantum Bigfoot, and that gets into the scientific part of what could answer the WU and the paranormal stuff that people are talking about. Who we used to call me a wu wo were because I got into that, but I found our coutum physics is a science recognized all of the world. So it's not the woo, it's not the paranoids. It answers those questions that those things present to people because when they can't explain something they don't they call it the paranormal or the WU, which is okay, if I want to do that, the quantum science will answer a lot of those questions. And so it got me into it. Al Berry, who was a basicative report we took care in nineteen seventy two. He had a master's degree in science, and he said, don't talk about the weird stuff up here. He won't get to talking anywhere about this. And I started going around talking about this years ago, and he passed away in twenty twelve, though became good friend. And anyway, it's been a quite adventure, really. So it's taken me in a lot of places and made me read a lot. And I took me alcohol the way into the depths of where we came from as human beings, and were were the facts leadists. And it led me actually to the oldest known written language known to mankind, and that's the Canathlum text, which is transcribed or translated by the by the Samians in Mesopotamia, and it gets back to thirty four hundred BCE, and it's noted on thousands of play tablets how they wrote, and those things got translated into English in eighteen hundreds. And what they do is a pretty much mimic what a lot of the Biblical things say. I mean, the first few chapters of Genesis in the Bible talk about, you know, how this happened first day and second day. The Canadiform text goes back millions of years and how how old men used to be. We used to be a lot older, you know, Ptelemeres got sivered by something alien, I imagine, and we can believe in aliens. I know, I asked you earlier before it came on to you believe in aliens and you don't know, but I think it's it's almost ridiculous. Well, the government says we can now right, they said it wasn't really a weather balloon and roswell, so it was a weather Well No, Anyway, aliens are out there. They've been hybridizing this planet for eons and eons, and I think a lot of these what they call bigfood or YETI or something like that, have been have been habardized by alien intervention into genome of a species on this planet, and they've been get different attributes depending on the agenda of the species that made them, which is alien species been. You don't tell how many alien species have visited this planet, and I've seen remnants of them from different parts of the world that I've been to, and it's undeniable that down in Peru Bolivius, it really open buys up because I've seen these negatiftic structures that we can't figure out how they did it. Today. I think a lot of it goes right back in sound vibration, moved by sound they send These boulders are over one hundred tons, well over one hundred tons, and they moved up on this thirteen thousand foot mountain, put together like a jigsaw puzzle, and no more at all. So it kind of helped my eyes up. Then I've seen remains of them when I'm right there. You see that. You're listening audience can't see that, but it's an elongated skull. And I'm down there researching those with a couple of different scientists a couple of different times. They're weighing them and see what the difference was. And they're not human. They have about a thirty percent more brain mass area because they don't have they have a single parietal, which is we have two problems, you know, two brain met one on each side of our head. The sasuo sis are going down there. They don't have a SAZUOI sure, and two little pinholes right in the back of it too. I kind of made light of that thing. They were antennas, but I kind of doubt that. Uh So, Anyway, I was down there, I say a couple of times with the Brian Forrester who's uh lives there in Parracis, Peru, went up in the high country and studied a lot of that stuff and did a lot of investigating there. So that's that opened your eyes up. That kind of stuff like that, that's happening all over the world. People are seeing that stuff. And uh, Malta is another one. But I get off on these subjects. Man. Stuff you want to just ask me a question, just jump in there and ask it. But I I you started dealing into the Cananthon text and the Anonochy. The Anonochy were star people, they called them, and just about all cultures have that in their sy their core beliefs. People came from the sky and gave us this or told us that they were also shining ones. Even Satan in the Bible is called the shining One. But I believe them to be what the Bible calls the fallen angels and the following ones, the ones that left out of the dimension they were in and then went into our third dimensional environment. We live in a third dimensional environment, and that's just what we have to do, is go through time as we see it, because it's we think there's a tomorrow coming. We're pretty sure there was yesterday. But I have to learn to live in the now, I think, and that's that's kind of important. I believe it gets deeper and deeper as we go. It's called the rabbit hole by some people, but it's a fact. I mean, they can informed. Tablets are a fact. They're written. Almost all written languages came have a core that in that written text from Marion Tablas, So even the Hebrew Bible does. And you find the issues I did. Anyway, when I started, I got Hebrew translation, started finding errors in there, and one error that sticks out in my mind. One of the first ones I found was the Bible says it's easier for a camel will go through the eye of a needle than it is a rich man to go to heaven, or something like that. And anyway, I started looking up the word for rope, and in the Hebrew text it's it's spell. I mean, excuse me, thepe rope and camel or spell exactly the same way. So there's just a little mistake. It sounds more reasonable for someone to say's easier for a rope to go through the iv a needle than a camel. I get off on that because I've found a few other things like that, but I just think that we ought to consider our minds focused outside the box that we've been conditioned in. And we've all been conditioned like I said before, and tell you you get outside that box. And I related to a parachute that doesn't open, you get hurt where it hits. So you need to understand the quantum physics is the core of the how everything works in this universe, from the atom all the way through the cosmos. Going to Professor Christopher Bryer at West Texas A and M. So what happens at People call these things interdimensional. A lot of people call them this, that and the other, but they're not all the same. I think a lot of them have crossbred with indigenous people's love their lore and they say, live in two worlds? Well, how does that figure? What does that mean? Can they go out of our three dimensional environment and see everything is energy frequency and vibration? Correct? Okay, Well, if everything's energy frequency vibration and it is, that's pretty much established. Find the frequency of anything, you can change its matter. Now, Einstein says that. Okay, then here comes doctor doctor shoot Florida. Yeah, anyway, you got the Nobel Prize nineteen thirty three for antimatter and Barrack Dirac Paul Durak. There it is and antimatter, which is the director's change between energy, energy and matter. Matter and energy are interchangeable. Well, that's kind of interesting. Then you had cern in twenty twelve which had a hydron collider with a collide of two particles that turned into energy. Now you can't see energy, but you can sense it. They sensed energy there, So that was established, and now energy and matter are interchangeable. It's established as a fact. Okay, if these things we call bigfoot that we were doing the si eras can somehow reach the frequency that would change their matter into energy. That would cause them to go out of our perception, which our perception as a light frequency, which is light frequencies F one hundred and thirty seven and seventy terraor hurts. So when you fall out of that, you don't see anything else because that's lights frequency. We sitting here in the dark right now, you ain't see much. It's light trickerent. Now, cats, animals, some of them can see better than we can. Sometimes a camera's eye will take in more than what we can see with our eyes. We have limitations as humans, as our human conditioning is a human component. We we don't see what was everything there is to be seen. We don't hear everything there is to hear. We don't hear infrasound or ultrastound. We don't smell. Our olfactory sense is not as good as a bear, which is twenty times better than ours. So we have to understand our human conditioning here, how we how we are as humans and realize when you go out in the woods, you're going to see everything. You've got to hear everything, and you're got to smell everything. So really you have to get into a little bit of just not biology, but get into quantum physics to see how things can disappear, and things can disappear if they go out of your frequency. So you find the frequency of anything, it can change its matter. That's supposedly a fact. So I think that's how miracles are done from the shaman, from different masters, from old They know the frequency and it's automatic for some and it has to be earned by others. I think we have the ability to do a lot of this stuff, but we haven't evolved into it yet. So we have, we've been dumbed down, so we don't do it anymore. We've absolutely been dumbed down. We've done the apple for the carden of Eden or whatever that was. Yeah, they because he made us, when they made us by the way that Andaccu made us, they're not all bad and we're made the image. Even the Bible says, let us make man in our image. Well, a lot of religions will say that's body, soul, and spirit. Well it may be, so there's more. There's a lot more. And then it gets into they made us too good, like they was afraid he's gonna by living so long when we're living hundreds and hundreds of years back then, well they said, these these guys are gonna get too smart, they're gonna be like us. So we're going to change that. So they changed our telemeres and shorten our lifespans one hundred and twenty years. So that's why we don't live as long as we used too, and our telomeres have een clipped and sever and there we are. So make the most out of this life because you're going to have it. You got to learn everything you can from this life. That kind of brings up another question. Okay, good questions for me, completely unrelated to the Bigfoot or whatever. But like, so, if we're creating everything, do you believe that there is an afterlife or we're just after life? We're energy, which I'm sorry, go ahead answer your questions. Amazing. If we die, where's our energy go? Well, there you go. No one knows if your it isn't you think you're going to go to heaven. If you're a physicist, you're going to change forms courten Einstein. But it doesn't. Energy can't get be created and it can't die. And that's that's been proven mathematically. So in order to disprove which you have to disprove it mathematically, and it's never been disproved. So energy can't die. So that means we've been here before. That means you may be here again if you haven't learned your lessons and just you go on and on. So really there's no such thing as death. It's called it passing on and changing forms. That's what happens. And that goes against a lot of religions, goes I guess how I was racial legispate, But that's it's the way it pretty much has to be if you're going to believe in science and believe in spirituality. Like Tesla said, well one man calls God, no one calls the laws of physics. So physics and spirituality are prove us synonymous. And I quite a lot of scientists in my book because I think it all comes kind of those credible people that are talking and have written things and proving things that we need to pay attention to. But you got to get outside the condition box in our brain. There's a way to do that. I think there's a lot of stuff that's out there that I feel like maybe more people are starting to wake up towards certain things. But then I get on Facebook and then I just shake my head. I think we're getting smarter than that. And then I realized within two seconds and now we're still pretty stupid. Yes we are, but we're not so stupid. We just we just been yeah, messed with, and we've we've got a lot to learn, a lot to grow into. But I think you do that. We have something in our in our brain, in the side of our head besides a square boxes call the ethereal part, and that's the opinia gland, which I think is a receptor. See, I have horrors at the Egyptian's spectate a lot. And it's the third eye that a lot of Indians are to talk about, but that that third eye is a receptor for the oneeness that we all are. That's how you receive your gut feeling because it's a dragged down connection to your heart. Your heart has a brain. Your heart has a brain. We said again, our heart has a brain, and that brain gets a gut feeling. But that's what they call a gut feeling. That's something wrong with something's going to go. And it'll tell your head, your conditioned head, which says no, that can't be. That's filling those holes that can't be. It'll say, I'll go over there and help old missus Jones or something yet over here. And you see a two thousand dollars you can make in an hour, Well you want to go over there with a few thousand dollars are But your gut feeling says, go help missus Jones. So you need to. We need to learn how to be compassionate and deal with love and passion. And that's not religion, that's spirituality. And you're going to help missus Jones, if that's what your heart is saying to do. I don't. I don't know if missus Jones are listening right now, and I hope to help you. I was thinking, like when you were talking about things that you ever, I don't know how this relates. I probably I don't know if it does or not. But like deja vu, I've always felt weird about I get it a lot. I just had it. I just had it yesterday, And every time it happens, I get like a weird like a weird queasiness. My hair stands up on my get goosebumps, like because it's like, you know what happen. Yeah, Like I've seen this before, Like I know what's going on, and I hate that and I can't explain it. Like so let me tell you you ready, because time as we perceive it does not exist. Everything's in then, okay, But so when something happens like that, it's like a little jump in time warp we have. I've had daja voos and it's scary sometimes, but all of a sudden, you learn to relax your brain. Don't let your brain start talking out if anything, just relax it to know more and more and more what tricks to happen. And that's fine because then you really can tell the future. I wish I could get it from the lottery. You can't help, but thinking know when that happens, you just can't help, but thinking yeah, yeah, it's fine. Though I asked people had a daisos if everybody has dajaboos, they don't know how to explain. It was because time as we perceive it doesn't exist. Tomorrow you think's going to happen, but it doesn't exist yet, and yesterday don't exist because we're in the now. The only thing exists as you and I talking right now and things we see around us. I don't think it makes that exists is the fact that this we're in the light frequency. Lot of people that kind of went off into I don't want to call it the matrix type idea, but like a lot of people think we're in a simulation. And I've even contemplated the way things are, especially scientifically, like if there's other dimensions of this, and that I said, basically, I look at it from like a video game perspective, like if we're on the third level, we're on three D and there's different dimensions. So you go up into the fourth dimension like that's level four of the game, and then like these things, these entities, these could be aliens, creatures, whatever you want to call them. These energies from other dimensions come into our worlds like they're coming into our level. And at some point I talked with people say that we can achieve this level, then after we die, we go into the next level. I was like, so that that's their way of talking about how the afterlife is this our energy goes up to a different level. And when you talk about levels or frequencies and admit it all comes back sounding very simulated to me. It almost sounds like electronically like a game again because you're going back on frequencies, energies. Well, but it's not a game, it's real. It's realistic. We live in third dimension and you go out of this and do what they call time, some people call it time and support dimension. I think that's where a lot of people see ghosts and different things like that. It depends on the temperature and get into the etherical around and frequency. Really everything is frequency. So I think aliens are in the fifth and sixth dimension, and that's just where I think we're headed for when this body dies. If you haven't learned what you're supposed to learn through your love and compassion on this planet, then you're going to have to experience it somewhere. Because you want to be part of this universe, you've got to be have that as your core, as your core fundamental values. And if you haven't learned to once, you're going to learn again. And you can either come back here or you can go another planet and learn it. Whether they or is a three dimensional environment where you get to make choices. It's all about experiences and the choices you make. We have to make them based on loving compassion, not on hatred or a vengeance or or anything like that. We're a warren species, so it's kind of automatically for us to to want to hurt somebody hurts us, but we're not. We're not really supposed to do that. We're supposed to try to understand them and try to I tell people that you're going to call in what you whatever you talk about and believe is what you're going to call into your life. And I know you think negativity and negative all the time and speak it. What's so proper today and night. You're gonna you're going to live in that world, and that's not going to teach you a thing. They start to learning how to care for other people and do right by other people, no matter what they've done to you, because what they've done to you is their karma, not your karma. Our kara is to graduate, to get through this three dimensional environment and graduate up to the sixth through the fifth through the fourth. If you don't, you're gonna be stuck in one of those. Then you're gonna have to learn it again somewhere. That's called multiple embodiments. And I think we're made in the image of the nine dimensional beings, which is the Ananachy. That's what they were, the shiny ones, and that's what we're headed for. That's what we're supposed to be headed for. But you can't get there until you've learned the rudimentary core of the universe, which is low and how to deal with other people compassionately. I appreciate it. Don't do you believe in the lower frequency beans? I know when you mentioned negativity. I've talked to several different people to believe they're lower frequency beans. One guy thinks that hell like the biblical version of Hell basically like a lower frequency it's dark, it's cold. Little Hell's always seem to be like it's highs like have you ever heard of you've touched something and it froze you tool like it feels like a freezer burn, like you ever gotten like that? But that is they're rationale for explaining lower frequency beings basically almost like the evilness to the monarchs or whatever they want to call them. They've so claimed those are the low frequency beings that bring in the negativity and they feed on our negativity. Yeah, yeah, they will if you're a negative that feed on that. I went out into a dog man research center in south of here and they've currently been seeing dog man. They've been blessing people, and there were things like that. Other guys is a thirty year veteran of the Deputy Church Department, and he saw one face to face and he just's firm onever in that. Well. I say, if there can be bigfoots all over the world, there could be a dog man too, because if aliens are manipulating the general of different species, why not a dog or will for something? I told you that I saw something I didn't say what, but it was an upright walking canine. In two thousand and seven, well you might have seen a dog man Watt State was that in in Indiana? And yeah, four miles from where I live right now. I go down that road every almost every day, and I've never seen it before. I've never seen it since. But I've heard a lot of people say they're aggressive, and I think they they don't. I don't know what made them, you know what the species made them. But there's different alien species on this planet now. I think someone live in the ocean, some live in deep caves down under the ground. I think the reptilians what they call them, live in under the ground, case systems and bigfoot. I'm not sure, but because of how delated they are, because a lot of them are cross spread, so they've become more human like than others. And they've been here, like I say, for eons. They were here before we were because they created them first as the slave labors, and then they created us because that wasn't good enough. What they made it gets seemed better. I talk about this said my last book, they put unveiled. I get into dimensions and to I think that's what Tesla's three six and nine is you have to go through the third dimensional to understand the universe, or call Tesla if you understand three six and nine and understand the universe. Well, that hit home with me. I've heard never heard anyone else say it like this, but it just came to me like this. So I could be wrong, but it sounds makes sense to me. If third dimension is what we're in now, you have to understand what that's all about, how to react to that before you can go on to the sixth six dimension is where they say you can create things and do things. You can telepathically communicate all the time. However, we're made to go to the ninth dimension, which means you've got to learn more, even because we're made in the image of the Annochy, which is nine dimensional means so that's the three six and nine. I think we understand those those core book things. I think you can graduate and keep graduating as long as you can hask those beliefs and live them. We live in a you say matrix could be the science says nothing's real to them's observed. Well, wow, how do you get your head around that? Well, things, because we're looking at something right now. It's real, but it's only real because your lights, your eyes are observing and there they're only seeing a reflection. They're not seeing the real thing you mentioned three six nine. I'm trying to get my Google to work and it's being very slow. Call a manifestation code that Cantesla. Well, I'm sure for whatever reason, like you know, the Inferno, Dante's Inferno or whatever, he had to go through all these different levels in that book. And obviously it was a work of fiction or whatever, But how many levels did he have to go through? As well as trying to figure out because I thought it was like three six and nine, I thought that was something to do with that book that was rote obviously a long time fom tesla. But I typed it in in my internet's not loading. So I hate tell you, but I never read that books. I never read it either. I just I know the story of it, and I know he had to the gist of it was he had to go through all the layers of hell to get back to I think trying to save the soul of the woman that he loved or something. I don't know. I could be a completely off base I've never read it, but I know there was certain stages, certain levels of that he had to travel through. And I thought there was like nine levels of hell that he had to go through. Oh interesting, and you're talking about different levels of like different dimensions or whatever. He said nine. I was like, I wonder if I had anything to do with why he wrote the book that way. I was raised in. Minister said that he could preach hell and damnation and all that stuff, And I used to ask myself, well, he's supposed to be destroyed the n who's going to be in charge of hell? If all this is supposed to be good? H There's no answer for that, because that's my biggest hang up on religion. I would raise in the Pentecostal Church, but I always go back to if you believe in the Bible, and you believe in everything it says, if God created everything, God had to create Satan and the angels that rebelled against him, and if he's the all knowing God, he knew they were going to rebel against him, so therefore he knew he was creating evil and it was going to happen. He didn't give them free will, but he gave man free will, So how could he create something that was going to rebel against him if he didn't give it free will. So that's where the loophole comes in for me, and it gets confusing. I disagree with part of that. I think everything has a free will. Aliens have a free will and knocked out a free will, and they decided to come on down to Earth and mess with the gentlemens of our species and different species on the planet. So had a free will because they was supposed to been destroyed in the flood. But yet there are four years later in the land of Canaan, and he started look at that stuff, and actually there was a if you really get into it. And I really hesitated on getting on this because really a lot of religions will frown on it. But in the cananform Texas over ten thousands of those. Every time the word God, which isn't said God, is called E L O H I M. Every time that's mentioned, it's mentioned pural form, paral form, more than one paral form. Yet somehow, through the ancients, through the times, through the translations, man and man with his conditioned brain has changed it into singular. When he gets he thinks That's kind of makes more sense that way, because so I kind of believe that hell is our ourselves. We are hell if we can't get out of this third dimension environment. Our negativity is hell for us and are positive of the good. Can serve two masters. The master either goes serve yourself. You're going to serve the oneness that we're all part of. So when you get into the oneness that we're all part of, us the opinion that I mentioned earlier, and you become one with that. Even like Christ said, I wish it all could be one of the fathers. I'm one of the father Well, we all need to be one, like we really are, but we haven't learned how to graduate from the heart's mind into the things sitting on our shoulders, and we have it conditioned so much that you can't get out of that. Sometimes some people can't. I mentioned I tried to give my presentation to a church group of time or two and they don't go for it all. He said, I all sitting out there at arms crossed, you know, so I just stopped that. You know, I talk on podcasts like this all the time, speak conventions because you find people have got more of an open mind in those places and they'll listen to you because what I say to me it makes sense. All never meant. It didn't make sense. This never did. It's a man made contraption for religions to control. And that's what religion does. Is I'm not saying religious people are bad, They're just they're good people. That's just been brainhorst. That's that's kind of where I get into it with people too. And I think I make majority of my family andywhere else is super religious mad. But like I've said, religion is used as a way to control people these days. Yeah it is. It's not about I said, not the belief and everything. I'm glad people have a belief and stuff. And that's why I said, I'm not a religious person. I believe that there is something created us. I don't know what it is. I'm not going to say it's like the God of whatever, religion or whatever. There was something was our creator and it could be what you're talking about it And yeah, I think yeah, But I feel like we're stuck and blinded by the indoctrination we get from religions and what we're being told. This is how it is, like no one thinks outside the box anymore. Everyone looks at their phone twenty four to seven, like we're being dubbed down to just condition of what they want us to know. That's why I wrote this book right here, Brandon, just because of that. It what one man calls God, no one calls the laws of physics. Well there you go. You got spirituality and qualita physics on the same plane. Because you can't see one of them, yet they exist. So I just like to say that about that is that you know we're here for the experience, and make the most out of it because we only have the now. We don't have tomorrow, we don't have yesterday anymore. So make the most of the now and do good with it, and you will be on the right. You'd be great. You'll be graduating, your frequency gets higher. We're we're on the way to our fifth dimension right now. And I think the whole Earth is, except for a certain war and communic and parts. But the Earth is trying to write it's it's a it's an energy form too, and it's I read where it was it used to be in the fifth dimension, that it went down to the third dimension. When when the fallen ones, the ananochy, the fallen Ananachi started changing the species and making them a worse species. And that's what we that's where we are. But we got to get out of that. We got to raise our vibration. We got to start thinking better and doing better and stop hurting people. And that's going to get us into a higher plane and a better vibration and get us out of here in good shape. I said, get us out of here. Most people won't get out of here. Completely off topic, but I feel like it's relevant to this. Well it is because if Bigfitt has a human component, where did they come from? You know, they don't fall in the Darwin category. Yeah. What I was going to ask is, so if we were created from the Inn and Ochey and everything, what were I know a lot of religious people, and I don't want to upset anyone, but basically the creationists side, they think the Earth's only six thousand years old, and I think that's whatever. They don't believe in dinosaurs or anything like that. So how many years ago do you honestly think that these Ananaki came down here? Like when did all that happen? Oh? Gosh, you know that's up for grabs because it's probably hundreds of thousand years, so it's eight it's been busy here. They started a hybridsation program. I don't know when. I just know the younger dry Ass, which is twelve thousand years ago. That's what we're coming out of now. And it's just things are changing rapidly on this space of this planet right now. That's why UFOs would being Seymour because even the Bible says I was in Christ said I was in the days of Noah, assoc should also be in the Second Coming. Well, the Second Coming is is now and we're seeing it. We're seeing the alien spaceships, we're seeing they're going so common, we're going to be so complacent with it. It's not going to surprise us at all. And more and more people are seeing these bigfoot creatures all over the world. I'm not just here, but all over and they're coming out and they're being seen, and some of them are more human than they are allen angels or whatever they might whatever the core might have been at one time, and their trackways are different, attributes are different, so it's just might have been aware of who we are as human beings. We're very special we did outperform. Our capabilities are way up there, far as further than we can even imagine, and we're going to reach those one of these days if we just learned how to raise our frequency. And I believe that wholeheartedly. But there are some malicious ones out there. I was getting ready to say, I feel like there's other things out there that don't want us to achieve that. Oh absolutely, And I don't know how to. Like again, I don't want to keep going back back to the really religion aspect to them, but like, whatever these entities are, why would they not want us to And again I go back to if, well, if they're the low vibration feeding on our negativity thing, that's why they don't want us to achieve anything, because where their food source att this rate, Like they're living off the energy. And then you some people say, those are what the reptilians are. They live underground, they feed off on our negative energy, they control everything. I was like, that's I'm putting on my tent foil hat here for going down the rabbit hole. But like when you start going down these pathways, I'm like, man, that sounds crazy. But then the further you start to look into it, You're just like that starts something like it plausible, Like I could see that being a possibility. Like when I started doing this show years ago, to top the stuff I talked about, I was like straight up matshit crazy stuff. Now it's like I'm yeah, we couldn't do this a few years ago, we couldn't talk like this at all. I didn't know. But finally the government opened it up to us. They're going to give us what we think we can handle, what they think we can handle, you know, as as tacts go, and they won't tell us everything. I I've had a few episodes that got in trouble. I got banned on certain things, but so far I've only had a couple of issues. Well, all I asked people is to check it out. They don't have to believe a word I'm saying. But I'd have experienced these beings firsthand. I community, I said, I didn't communicate with them, but I was conversing something with them. I trying to mimic them. That nine I got all recorded one of my both my CDs, actually got two CDs on my website, and just do you want to hear what they sound? Like, that's where I could have sent you some sounds. I could play them, but it just stuff. I'm in my eighties now. I'm not trying to prove anything to anybody. I just want people to understand who they are as human beings. Made they made an image of something very unique, the good annopies, because there's multitudes of them that are out there that didn't fall. They didn't take human density. Human density is this third dimensional environment and that's yeah. There's other bad things that you ever heard of. The there's a cave in Vietnam which was discovered years ago. It's it just got open here in twenty thirteen, I think it was when they it's a huge cave, right, because when they ever found in the world, and I've seen photos of I don't know what it's called. It's Hansong Dong. Do you feel like a skyscraper inner? I think they said, oh yeah, and it's six miles long. It's own ecosystem and everything, trees, water and all that stuff. There's been reports of reptilian type bipedal beans being seen coming out of that cave and by the locals swear by it. And then you got the military and Vietnam when they were having missions over there, claims they shot had one. They think they missed it because they went back in the cave. But h we have a tendency to shoot things we don't understand. Instead of the reptilians are here because they want this earth, I mean everything wants this earth where this is a good earth. We got we got the cream of the crop here, this earth, cream of the Solar system. I should say, it's got everything the other planets don't have. So aliens don't want us to destroy it. That's why we started seeing more UFOs, and that's why they got involved in the UFO stuff right after, right after the Second World War when the Thomas Brawm went off. And that's that's kind of bothersome to them because that's set out some warnings, and that's why they're pearing more and they're interfering more, which they're not really supposed to interfere with their karma. That's why that's why, Well, if they do, they're obstructing our graduation because we're supposed to respond to things on our own and we're not supposed tell other people what to do. We're not supposed to judge other people what they're doing. We're not supposed to tell them what to do, because you can tell them what you did, they worked out or something like that, and if they they want to go that way, it's going to be their choice. But everything on this planet has a choice, and I don't think we always will have a choice. So when we're talking about like they want the planet and everything, do you believe that like these things, where do they originally come from? If we're talking about different dimensions with a different dimensions still revolve around our planet, are they from some completely different I think they probably came from some other place outside of the Consmos. You got the Palladians they talk about, which comes from the star system, the Seven Sisters, I think it is. You got a lot of a lot of people are looking at that deeper than even I have, and they or some aliens have been captured and they cooperate with us because they want us to know more and they want us to not destroy the earth. And that's where a lot of the information is coming from. The whistle blowers that are been working in every fifty one different places. I've heard a lot of stuff over my years and got to kind of take it all in and see what you want to digest and what it fits right with with your heart. Your heart will lead you and everything that's right. And so a few years ago, any of this stuff to me had wan' been like, man, this is just straight up craziness. But anymore I'm like, nope, I believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore. I tell you that twenty sixteen, I was up there with my wife her and I was in this little tent I set up, and we saw this elongated light go floating by us. And that's a little concerning because you don't know what it's all about. You don't know what it's for. I didn't have nothing but my thirty eight p shooter, you know, and nothing I do. But you don't know. He says it's a form of energy because it manipulating its way through the trees through the forest up there. We wanted it to went out of sight, but it didn't bother us. But nothing surprises me anymore. We've seen light anomalies up there, excuse me before, but it's just what do you do with that? I kind of just told people about it. It was until twenty eighteen when David Polaidi's he's a Missing four to one researching with those books. Him and are are pretty good friends. And I took him in his videographer up to our camp and they recreated that scene that sort of just how fastive it followed my finger right along with a light anomaly just like I described, And he put that in his Missing four one the Hunted video, which I think is free now if I want to pick it up. I'm in a fifteen minutes of that just before the have seen this pixelosation of something energy moving from one tree to another. And speaking of trees, I got a whole chapter on trees in my book. These things don't like it when we're mess of the trees, when we cut trees down. More reproachs over the years that I've taken and listened to about these things being seen when they're clear cutting or when they're cutting trees, and then no one seems to understand because trees are nothing. They think, well, no, the trees is something. They have a root system that talks to other trees, their life form, their energy. And the Native Americans said they live in trees. Well, they're not the only ones that say that. Now, I know two people who very credible people in my opinion. One's a professor actually who swears something down they come out of trees and he's seen it. And another lady that I know, she says the same thing. And they don't go out together, by the way, they're different. And then you got the neighbors say they live in two worlds and they live in trees. Well, how can they live in trees? You know? That's why I change my wooden knock in twenty eleven to a gunshot maybe going off outside my tent there, because maybe the energy it takes. They thrive on energy. I can tell you that they kill your batteries. They did our so many times up there. If they live on energy, if they can change their manner through sound vibration, which is my theory, they could energize within a tree which has life and has energy, and their root system goes down, down, down down. And I just think that's a pretty good theory, and no one's going to prove it one way or the other. Guess's vier comes out and say they watched me go into a tree. I'm gonna go energize. That would work. It's funny that you mentioned like they drain, Let they your batteries, they want your energy or whatever. Because I talked to someone the other day, I did an interview and we didn't actually dive into that. He wrote a book recently, but we didn't actually talk about some of the stuff from the book. We got sidetracked. But in the book he said, people that have Bigfoot experiences, if this ever happened in their house, like all the stuff that people report, they'd be considered a polar geist because there's certain aspects to people that have Bigfoot experiences that you would have with ghost experiences or whatever in your house, like you hear noises, you're picking up your batteries or drained, and your energies is draining, like certain things like people go ghost on and they said, oh my camera just lost all its battery power. Something just drained all the energy. And a lot of that stuff does actually happen out when people are out looking for Bigfoot too, so there is kind of a weird correlation with some of the stuff. Yes, energy is extremely Yes, valuable. Scott and Nelson, the crypto lingers who went up there with me a few times. He had his he take up batteries and a the last for days and they'd all be drained with many good and you know something's around, but who knows how they do it. I think they need energy. A lot of signs around power lines and transformers. I just think there's a definite. They definitely use energy to to either go out of our dimension or get into it one the other. That sounds crazy, and if I said it twenty years ago, I've been putting the fun for him. But after looking into it for someone so long and realizing what they could be and what they probably are. You know, sir, people say this are sixtelve years old. Is that's how I was trained. It doesn't make any sense. It just does how they explained dinosaur bones, you know, how to explain that stuff? They claim those are the works of the devil. When I used to go to one of the that's religion, yeah, one of the people would say that because I would come from a Pentecostal family. So one of the people that read that church, he was like the assistant pastor whatever. He always says anything like bones, like dinosaur bones or anything there all works of the devil. To mislead man. There was only like six thousand years old. It says they're right in the Bible, and I don't think the Bible gave a specific time frame. No, I got it written in my second book, just how that came about. But you know, just about everybody agrees it's looked into anything, especially evident that it's twelve thousand years ago. We had a we had a big shift on this earth, and that's called the Younger Dryas and that puts it about eight thousand years of BCE. Yeah, that's about the end of the Ice Age, I think, wasn't it. Yeah, m Well, things shifted, a lot of things shifted, and that's why you see these and allways all over the earth. It seemed like it had something in common, like the pyramids. You see those in Peru and Bolivia and all over. So something going on has gone on for eons. I mean, I want to say hundreds of thousand years when I get right into possibly millions of years, because we don't see time like time exists the way it really doesn't exist. It's just kind of say that again, it's just everything in the now, and that's hard to get your head around because it really is. You got to what they call time travelers too, which according to physics as possible. But I think when you get in the fourth dimension, which is the time you can see what's everything is, you can see backwards, you can see forward, and possibly if you want to correct your mistakes, you can get into a life that's a little more promising for you. That's called reincarnation. Churches, at least a lot of Christian churches don't believe in that at all. But even Christ asked who who they thought he was? Was Elijah? He was he? They believed incarnation vaccarnation back then. And who is Melchesdek? You really want to get into that he was in the Old Testament, Abraham's priest. They think that might have been Christier on Earth at one time incarnating, but it happens. I mean it don't think it makes sense to if energy can't die with all our energy at the most minute level of our existence, where our energy everything is, you find the frequency of that energy which is vibrating, and you can change matter there you are. M I feel like that's what Cern and some of these other accelerators are really trying to do. Is there are so many big conspiracies when it comes to like Stern and all sorts of stuff. I talked to someone recently and he said, cerns trying to open a portal to Hell to release. I was like, well, I don't know if I believe that it's what they're doing. But the video they released when they first talk about is very like I don't know if you've ever seen it, but it is very strange video the SCERN released on their own, like it has got a lot of I don't want to say evil looking like images or whatever. It is very strange. I think they may have just played into the whole hype of people saying that's what they were doing, so they just kind of played it off tongue in cheek like what they were doing. Well, they said something about the God particle, you know, and that kind of through everybody, especially religions because no no can be that. Well, what they meant by that was it's energy, and God is energy. He's the highest form of a one. He's the creator of everything. I do believe in that, you know, there's just nobody get me wrong there. I believe in their creator. It's all intelligent. It's above the ninth dimension. But the ninth dimension are entities, alien entities. Someone decided to take third density form and drop down to Earth and start messing with the women here and green hybrids. There's a lot of hybrids on this planet. I think it's just a training place for the rest to learn how to treat everything and how to be good with everything. I don't hunt anymore, and I not that I wouldn't if I needed to eat, but I mean I do need to eat, and get away from that right quick. I love to eating, but do you know what I mean? If we need, if we needed to survive, sure, but everything is energy and it's just going to change and go somewhere else. The last year, I shot up at the Sierrs when I finished hunting. Was I waent over to it and it died right in front of me. I just see the sighs graze over and he just felt something leave it, and I felt something to leave it. And that sounds ridiculous, but it's energy left. And I don't want well any of that stuff, but it's it's really there's more going on than what meets our two eyes and what's been training our little brain upon our shoulders. Mm hmm listening. I'm not a hunter and I don't kill sa like, I saw a lot of people, but I know they're chirfight of snakes. So if they see a snake they want to kill. And I'm the person like, I'm not afraid of us. All try and save the snake and move it somewhere else. I think the snake's got a bad rap and a lot of it's because of religion. Well that's true, but reptilians, Yeah, someone pointed that out recently in an interview. They said that in the Garden of Eating, the snake was standing up talking to Eve and influenced her and then God punish them by making them crawl on their belly, so that means they used to walk. It was that sound like it sounds like a reptilian. I was like, I mean, yeah, I never thought of that, but it kind of does. But also big, you know, they were big, and what they when they crossbred with with the talking dites which they came in and they you know, the crossbread with them, they create a giants called the nepheline. You've heard of that. I was raised in Pentecostal area too. I've been to that one. But Baptists you seal them and finally just got to an ominational church just just tall love and compassion. I like that one. But still it's religion. It wants to control you through the Hebrew Bible, which is translated into Greek, and the New Testament, and uh, you just got to look into it more. Everybody does. And I just encourage you. Don't have to believe a word I'm saying here, but encourage you all to look deeper into how things really are. They're not as they appear to be, and there's things all around you right now that you don't see that's there. And if you look for the negative, you'll find the negative and it'll come into your life. So we don't want that. I had a very strange warning when I first started doing the podcast, and they're basically quitting eats year or whatever how you pronounce the guy, but basically said, if you look into the abyss, sometimes the abys stairs back or whatever it was that but this person told me sometimes when you start looking into things, things start looking back. I took I never took a whole lot of stock into that, but there has been some weird things that have happened ever since I've started this shows, Like I wonder if it's my fault for going down these rabbit holes and I'm bringing in some weird energies around my own house. Well, once you putounce what you're going to get back, so I just start thinking about the good stuff. Yeah, and you'd be healthy too, by the way I go to say you'd be healthy. It helps. I do feel like I'm trying because a lot of the interviews I have or people have had experiences and they don't want I didn't want people to feel like I did because for fifteen years I never talked to anyone about what I saw because crazy it was gonna believe you, you know. Like so, so I want to talk to people that have had similar experiences, that had like the strange happenings or anything like that that they felt like they couldn't talk about. Yeah, I feel like it's therapeutic for myself, and it's if someone listening hears them, they don't feel so well, I had something weird happen to me, and the guests you're talking to they've had some weird experiences, so they want to talk about it. So my thing is I'm trying just to give a place for people to come on here. And I feel like they can actually talk about something strange that happened to them that I'm not here to ridicule them or prove or disprove anything like, I'm just here to let them talk. Good. That's great. There's a lot of people would talk about but they don't want to, just like like we didn't for a long time. We just played the sounds to people and talked about what went on a cap, not the strange stuff, just just about bigfoots vocalisations, you know. And I didn't talk about how important it was and what they didn't talk about ustuff we've been talking about tonight, But that's because we've been laughed at and scoffed at very much. And I was a businessman like the other guys were too, and we kind of held this position in the social area in our towns. And he just didn't didn't want to be made fun of, you know. When I moved out of California years ago one anyway, I went up to Washington and something after heard I was involved in Bigfoot. So they came into my house. I had a three story house, a little mansion early and refurbishing. We want to go into a really deep subject, trying to refurbish the Victorian house. Anyway, this the reporters out there come and interview me. You know, the Bigfoot's kind of a big deal in Washington. He came up there and she got to sit down my office, and so let's hear about I said some lot of us by the way I talked to them, and boy, she got she got up left because they got to be a primate. Everybody's been taught that they're an ape in the woods, you know, and and they're more than what we ran into. Is more than that, a lot more than that. And I just got to say that these guys out there beating on trees and screathing the night and yelling stuff like that, you might get their attention and you might wake them up one or the other if you hit on a tree. I don't know, but I know if trees are important to them and you're looking for the ape in the woods, good luck on that one, unless you're lucky like Patterson was. But what Patterson saw, you know, Roger Patterson, the Buff Creek film that I think that was more of a hybridization diluted down Bigfoot. So I've got a track from that trackway and it doesn't look like ours. Ours is five toed, but they're very a lot bigger, and they're displayed and what we have have his language. I'm not sure they all have that attribute, And I don't know if it's been recessed and a lot of them or they just weren't given that one. If I were, they created and created them. I've often wondered if there's another because there's different versions of bigfoots at what everyone like in different areas that they're described as looking different. I've heard some people say they look more humanized in the face, like different type of news like. Some said they look more like almost native American face, like very humanish. Yeah, So I've wondered if there's like different offshoots to where in certain areas they've adapted differently. Oh sure it could be, Yeah, absolutely, if to keep in mind, this hasn't just happened in six thousand years. This has happened over thousands of years, and it takes a lot of time just for a mutation to take effect in a species. So yeah, I think that's very possible. Because you don't know what intelligence made them, what entity might have made them. You don't know how much have been diluted down. But the native lord goes way back on these things, taking their women, and you hear about that. It's probably every tribe I've talked to. There's not a tribe that I've talked to that has this. It's hardly going to talk to you, number one. But once, once they do converse with us white guys, well they do tell you some stuff. But if I do this a couple of sweat lodges too, but some reading that I couldn't make it. Then uh, it's it's it's interesting to listen to these people's lower because they got this meant all of them talk about being from the sky, the hope. They talk about the sky people. You know, all cultures have that in China and all they got those those stories that come down from Agent times and said we were visited by sky people. And then you got the Book of Eno, you know, which he was carried away in a chariot of fire. Will go on not like UFO sounds like you don't. Yeah, And I've always again finding people that are open to this. I've always liked talking about stuff like this. I grew up as a kid in the nineties loving the X Files, so to me, it's I've got the thing right behind me. I want to believe. But I've always been interested in this type of stuff, but I never took a whole lot of stock into thinking it is actually real. I wanted it to be real. And then when you see something I didn't even know what a dog man was. I don't ever tell people I saw dog Man because I say I saw him upright walking canine, because I still struggle saying dog Man's real. But I know what I saw. I was fifteen ps from it, and I would suggest one thing, right, you should interview the deputy that went out with me. It took me out into the land between the lakes where he saw one face to face, Martin and Martin Groves. I've actually wanted to talk with Martin. He's a great man. He's a good person, and he's a very honorable and very believable person. And yeah, they would. I would help, because those people that have seen this stuff, they just don't want to come out and tell anybody because of the ridicule they might have. I don't care myself, you know, I just don't care. I'm in the eighties now, and you know I can go anytime. I don't care. I know where I'm going because I think I do, and that's what's important to me. I just want to get the word out of who we are as humans and what I think these things could be and my experience with them. And before I get loose from you here, I want to make sure people my website is Ronmoorhead dot com and that's all they All three of my books are available on that site, and so are my two CDEs. So downloads are available too, and downloads on my books or the paperbacker. But I good, so I'll include all that in the show. Not for anyone that's interested, I'll make sure to put all that in there for him, thank you. I just want the word out. Like I'm trying to make a bunch of money on this stuff, I'm not. It's been unfortunate. They sed have a lot airplanes, and I have been able to travel anywhere I want to go. Then all the way over last I've going down in South America. I've been all over doing doing fun stuff and researching too. But now I've got to go commercially because sold airplanes, and I just I don't like flying commercially anymore. And I've been doing a lot of it last few years, so they've I've given all this up this year after this year. How many years have you been doing this? And over fifty, haven't it? Yeah? I started seventy one, well started studying seventy one. I just started doing this till years later when we got doctor Curran's report about the range these things have with the vocal mechanism that's so much superior to ours. So they've been given an attribute to that we don't have, uh in their vocal mechanism. I heard one guy tell me, and he was supposed to an intuity, say they have had more than two vocal cords. We have two, and uh. Of course one of their one of the sounds I got recorded as a whistle, and it's been studied that the whistle was done through the vocal mechanism, not through the lips like we do. And if they can, they've got all these different vocal cores, they could probably create any sound they wanted to. But unfortunately we weren't recording anything but Cassett recorders, which just do certain frequencies. We had lined up with a researcher, a physicist, the doctor of infrasound back east somewhere, and she records in for sound on big animals, you know, tigers and elephants, and she wanted to help us out, so she said, well, I have I have equipment that'll set up and we could pick up infrasound or doing inf sound. That would be great. So well, she would do anything she wants to. She wanted to hear the sounds, and we center the sounds, and she heard what she thought was some English phrases in there. And there are English phrases in there, but that's because they could speak inside our our vocal baca, inside our our limitations as humans. She said, thank they're phony. Well, she didn't do any study at all. She's supposed to be a scientist. She kept our twenty five hundred dollars. So anyway, you can't record infsound and ultratound too, probably, but we didn't have any equipment back in the seventies. It wasn't thinking that way anyway. Yeah, well back then, I think even within the last fifteen years, for the most part, anyone, when you think of a big foo, you're thinking primate. Yeah, it's not been up until like I said, ten or fifteen years now is when the whole I didn't even know anything about interdimensional Anyone actually thought bigfois were interdimensional up until I started doing podcasting two years ago. So it's like I was never into the whole communities or looking into things too much or whatever. I just like, I saw some weird shit, and I'm just like whatever, I'm gonna try to write it off and not go down that rabbit hole. I think when they see him in the pickusation form, they're transferring from Greedy on up to something else. They've seen them in the fourth dimension of time. I know some very incredible people that have seen that very thing, and I never saw it myself. But then we didn't see as many of them as we thought we should have up there. As close as they were to our shelter, close as they were to us, sometimes we should have seen them. I mean they were then feet of us outside the shelter out there, and you should have seen something, but you didn't. Now we all got glimpses occasionally, that was rare. I mean it went until seventy four, when I started interacting with them outside the shelter that I actually saw one. And so to build my partner that was ok there with me, read pack some supplies in and it was just the two of us there and they started making there. I write about that in my first book, Voices. It was by Chronicle and it comes by the way, I've mentioned this and there was a link where you can download the sound I'm talking about. When I get to the context of it, you can hear the sound which is pretty popular. But these are all available on on my website. Ronmorehead dot com. Throwing that in, don't I I just want to word it out there, you know, No, I get it. I think we can probably wrap this up, but I want you to talk a little bit about your newest book and where everyone We've mentioned your website. Like I said, I'll put the links in the show notes for you, but you want to let everyone know about your latest book that just came out. Yeah, it's it's called The Bigfoot Unveiled, and it's a little deeper into some of the mysteries behind like the subtitles scientific answers to big good mysteries and gets a little deeper into well, some of the things wrote in my second book, which was a Quantum big Foot. But it's got manifestation code of Tesla, which is the three six nine dimensions, different dimensions, How they cloak? Can they cloak? How does that work? Yes, there's a science behind that. I try to stay with science and all this stuff intervention and karmas and of the chapter Hibrisation Levitation treat artificial Intelligence. We didn't talk about that, but that's that's very important people understand what that's all about. The subtitle that's a wolf in Chief's clothing and so anyway, that's pretty much it. Well, now there's more, but always by David Polaidis. He wrote the vord for me and anyway, these are all on my website. You can see them there too. Now, like I said, I'll make sure to include all of that in the show notes. For anyone out there listening to get it, contact with you to order a book or whatever it is they wanting to do, make it easy for them to do that. Thank you, Yeah, not a problem. Ron. I want to say thanks to you because it's been a pleasure talking with you. You were thank you. You were one of the people that were on my podcast bugget list, so I can so I got to talk to you. You were I said this earlier at the beginning. You've been kind of one of the godfathers of the bigfoot community, so it's been an honor to talk with you. I definitely appreciate you coming on here. Call the great back, great back of my mates. Okay, you take care of Brandon. Yep, you take care too. Thank you. You're night, and that's the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil to El, remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at gmail dot com or go to the contact section of tenfoiltal dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections we make, stay curiously open minded. 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