[00:00:03] And I just turned around and I pulled ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my headlights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were glowing red.
[00:00:30] I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. I was trying to tell them that he saw a UFO. They're basically like, what are you talking about? That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it. And that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.
[00:00:58] As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it felt like death. I'd like to take this time to welcome my guest tonight, Jason. Jason, thanks for coming on here and talking with me. You're welcome. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself before we get into it? Not a whole lot. I'm just going to tell you everything I know. So you reached out to me last week.
[00:01:24] You had a couple of sightings here in Indiana, which for anyone listening knows I'm also from Indiana. So that always gets me wanting to know more about it because you describe things that always make me interested, especially when it comes to the upright walking canine sightings. So if you would like to start from the beginning of your first sighting, I'd love to hear about it. All right. So back in 2018, we've just moved to Linton, Indiana from Decatur, Illinois.
[00:01:55] We were sitting around a fire, me, my sister, my wife. And we were sitting there talking and stuff. And we kept hearing this popping and cracking sound, which got our attention. We were trying to figure out where that was coming from. From the light off the fire, we could see yellow glowing eyes. My sister kept saying, what is that?
[00:02:22] And she was living in Linton, been there for five or six years before we ever moved there. And I was like, I don't know what that is, you know, and that popping and cracking. There was no other sounds. And she went and got her husband. Her husband went in and got his .40 cal. And that was gray and white looking. And it looked just like a dog standing upright, bifetal.
[00:02:55] You know, and she took a, had him fire his gun, popped a shot at it. It took off running. We didn't see no more of it. And she turned around and told us all not say nothing about it because people would think you're crazy or nuts. Right. Did you guys happen to see about maybe how tall it was? Uh, it was about seven to eight foot. Okay.
[00:03:21] I can't think of anything else that in Indiana that's ever that tall. No, I'm six foot four and that was over me. Right. Yeah. And it took off running on two legs. The way it ran, did it run like a person or did it run kind of like a little different, like a different type of running gate? It was like a run hop, run hop. Okay.
[00:03:51] It wasn't a like running like a regular person. You know how, like you see people when they're running and they're jumping over them, uh, them guardrails when they're doing the running. Yeah. That's what kind of like ran like. Okay. Did you happen to get a good look at its face? Like if it had more of a elongated snout or anything like that? It had a short gated snout. Okay. So more, uh, kind of like a pit bull looking face. Yeah.
[00:04:19] It's like a pit bull, but with like German shepherd style ears. It looked more like a husky. Okay. I've actually spoke to someone from Alabama. I believe it was. It said they saw something that looked like a bipedal husky. Mm-hmm. That's what this looked like. A husky. Okay. But, bipedal. And a lot of people don't know what bipedal means. It means it's up on two legs.
[00:04:46] Basically, it's a running and walking like a human. Yes. Which biologically, I don't know of any sort of canines that are able to do that. No. And, you know, somebody would have told me before 2018 about this. I would have thought they were crazy nuts, you know, right there and laughed and smuckered and took off. Right. That's. Seeing and hearing is believing.
[00:05:15] That's the one thing that a lot of people don't understand is. Even for myself, had I not seen something, I wouldn't believe in a lot of this either. It literally takes someone having witnessed something to make them open their eyes to the possibilities that there's probably some weird stuff out there that we just don't know about. So, me and my wife, we got into after seeing this thing with the yellow eyes, we were trying to figure out what it was. You know, it had a tail. It wasn't a very long tail, but it had a tail.
[00:05:46] And, we was looking up and the only thing we could find was something about yellow eyed dog man from Vincennes, Indiana. And Vincennes ain't that far from Linton, Indiana. So, they've had reports down there of also seeing these creatures too? Yes. Okay. Have you found out anymore from anyone else that's seen something like that? Or is that just something you come across on the internet?
[00:06:15] That's just something I'll come across on the internet. Okay. Most people don't go around telling everybody about seeing something. So, I don't know. Yeah. We just wanted to try to figure out what it was that we possibly seen because that wasn't right. Right. Yeah. And then my second experience happened on my way to work.
[00:06:39] And that's where I come to a complete stop in the middle of the road. On a country road, you have trees on both sides and a creek down on the other side. Mm-hmm. And that one was all black. Did it all snap? And it had a short snout. It had a tail.
[00:07:02] And with my headlights being on it, you could see it had a muscular upper portion. You know, the arms and, you know, like somebody who's lifting weights all the time. Mm-hmm. It was muscular. How was the fur? Was it thicker? Because if you could see the muscle detail or was it really kind of thin on the body parts to it? Kind of thinner. Okay.
[00:07:30] Was the first one that you guys saw the one that looked like, what, did it have the thinner fur too? Or is it more thick? It was more thicker. See, that's what I find interesting a lot of the times is certain ones have really thick fur. And then other times you hear about them and they don't really have a whole lot of fur. The black one on the face so wide, it looked like it had mange because it didn't have a whole lot of hair on the face. How tall was that one?
[00:08:00] That one was probably about nine, 10 foot tall. That's crazy of how big these things can be. Mm-hmm. And it had bright yellow eyes. The reflection off the headlights, because I got them LED headlights on my truck. Mm-hmm. Reflecting off of it. This thing, I froze. I didn't have a gun in the truck.
[00:08:25] And as it walked away, I gunned the truck and got the heck out of there. Do you live around any sort of river systems? Wabash. Wabash. That's interesting because there's been lots of sightings around this area along the Wabash too.
[00:08:47] So it makes me kind of wonder if, and I've said this on other episodes and I've been on other podcasts, but I've often wondered if these things don't follow the water system somehow. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder how many people see these things and refuse to think they're seeing a big foot. Can you look in the papers like from back in Lenten area off the internet? So back in the 50s, 60s, somebody saw a big foot.
[00:09:13] Now I'm wondering if it's really a big foot that they think there's looking at and it's a dog man. Well, that's an interesting point because just up here along the Wabash, ironically, in 2022, someone found large canine tracks and they look bipedal and compared next to their actual dog. These tracks are very, very large. I have photos of them for comparisons.
[00:09:42] And a month later on the big foot mapping project app that I have, there was a report of a big foot sighting literally in the same area of it. Basically they said a bipedal, very tall creature walked across the road. I was like, well, it's in the same spot where someone has these big dog tracks. I was like, so if a person is driving down the road and they see something bipedally walking across the road and it's like seven to eight foot tall, they're going to say big foot. They're not going to know dog man.
[00:10:11] Yeah, that's my whole thing. My mom was born here in the thirties and my grandparents come from Puritan, you know, on the Vowney County line road. And they've been out there since 1793, couple hundred years. And you never heard stories about this. Right. And then all of a sudden we're having reports about this and people are seeing things like I've seen. I kind of wonder how much of this is government made. Yeah.
[00:10:39] I'm not, I'm not sure about the whole government involvement just because I know there were reports in Europe hundreds of years ago, but it doesn't mean that they're not messing around with things in modern times. But there was old reports of like the werewolf trials and stuff in France that they had in like the 16, 17 hundreds. Yeah. And they've had a lot of different sightings and stuff over in Europe.
[00:11:06] And even like native Americans talked about these, uh, wolf people in some cultures. So you never know. Or just because of the different times and they're coming up for food sources. It just makes me wonder where these things actually are from. Like, are they a naturally existing creature that is so biologically? How come we haven't found any sort of evidence of them and why all of a sudden there's a big uptick in sightings and reports of them? Well, wait a minute.
[00:11:35] Wasn't there like back in what was that? 2019? I think it was 2019 before we moved from Linton to Terre Haute. Somewhere over by Bloomington, it was all over the papers where a guy shot a very long wolf, a very big wolf.
[00:11:58] I don't remember the exact location, but I do remember that there was, I don't remember if he shot up. I do remember there was a picture of someone had a big black wolf looking creature from Indiana's in the back of their truck. Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah. Where they shot it. Yeah. It was very big.
[00:12:20] So say if it's running on a four leg deal and then it's hopping up on two legs and that's goes back to 2018. When we're in Lenton, that thing was on four legs as it was standing up. It was cracking. You'd like bone on bone, you know, like when you break your fingernails, but you know, cracking them like real loud. When that happened, how far away were you guys from it?
[00:12:50] Oh, about 20 feet. So it was right on top of you guys. Yes. The back of her property, you know, halfway off the property had that fire pit going on. And then the other back half of the property is more like wood. Has your sister ever said if she's seen anything like that again? No. It's weird that it would just randomly show up that close to someone.
[00:13:20] Yes. Especially after, you know, I moved from Carolina. I hunted in the woods as a kid hunting after rabbit and pheasant and squirrels. You know, I've seen all types of different animals, but I've never seen nothing like that. Right. Do you think these things are more prevalent without people actually reporting them? Yeah. You think people are seeing a lot more of them?
[00:13:49] They're just not seeing anything? That's what I think a hundred percent. I think if they see it, they start thinking it's a Bigfoot and that's why you got all these Bigfoot. It's harder to find, you know, like where we're talking about a dog man here in Indiana, paired to a Bigfoot. And if you look on the internet, you find all kinds of research about Bigfoot everywhere, all over Indiana. But you don't find a whole lot on the research of the big, you know, the dog man.
[00:14:19] Dog man's one of those things that a lot of people are afraid to talk about in the first place because they think they have some sort of evil supernatural stigma when it comes to them. Because most people that encounter a dog man, they think that they have some sort of, I don't, most encounters they claim people have seen them, they feel like they're evil and like they're wanting people to be afraid of them. And I've heard people talk about how they want to feed on their fear. I was like, well, I don't know. That sounds kind of demonic if you go that far with it.
[00:14:49] So I don't know how to. I don't know about all that. I know is what I saw, you know? Right. And I've talked to another guy who says he talked to somebody who says those things traveled in packs. And that's kind of funny because anytime I ever seen the two, you know, right there, they were by themselves. There weren't nothing else around that I didn't see. Right.
[00:15:16] I've not heard too many cases of there being more than just one, but I did interview someone recently that there was three of them traveling and one came after them and they actually shot it. And he says that they ended up killing it. So there's a whole lot more to that story, but yeah, he said there was three of them. They never seen the other two again, but the one turned and came after them and the other two kept going.
[00:15:46] Yeah. You know, and then you hear reports that there's werewolves. Well, if people were thinking these things are werewolves, you know, but I don't see that because. I think that's probably the first thing people think of, because that's the first thing they can relate it to. Because when a lot of people, if they're not involved with cryptids, they've never heard of a dog man. So they're going to think werewolf. Yeah.
[00:16:13] I don't think it's someone turning into these creatures. I think that whatever these things are is what they are all the time. Yeah. That's what I think, you know, right there. That one that had looked like it had mange, it walked with wide steps. I'm talking about, I'm going to say about four foot apart as it was walking. The direction it was going, was it going off into the wooded areas or was it just. Yeah. Okay.
[00:16:41] It was going right across the road to the other part of the road that has this crook down at the end of it. Other side. And that happened last year, right? Yeah. That happened about March time of this, uh, 25. Okay. Yeah. So that's very recent. I haven't talked to anyone that's had anything that recent. I talked to someone that had something in 2023, but you're the first person I've talked to for a while. That's seen anything here recently.
[00:17:10] So that's, that's interesting, especially around here in Indiana. Yeah. I did the first, the first one, when we saw it, you know, we made that pack, not saying anything to nobody. So it was on the, though, uh, you know, right there, we won't never see that again. And then you'd see like six years later or five. Yeah. It'd be six years later, a whole nother one. Yeah.
[00:17:35] That's, that's weird in the sense that there's so many sightings supposedly, but you don't ever hear about them. And then you come across someone that's had more than one, which makes me want to know, like, why is there more sightings in that area? But then I've talked to people up in this area and there's been multiple sightings here in this area. So it's like people, I think we're seeing these things. They're just not talking about it. Yeah.
[00:18:06] And, uh, running the river system, you got the wall bash. That's pretty much a big river. And that what runs all the way down to the Mississippi or Ohio to the Mississippi. Yeah. It starts up, uh, I believe around Fort Wayne and pretty much goes right through the whole upper central part of the state to the western side. Then all the way down to the Ohio, then right to the Mississippi and then out to the ocean. Yeah.
[00:18:33] So if something's running river systems, it's running right up through the heart of all these different states. They have plenty of food sources just from living around these rivers and everything. And how we think of Indiana is more like corn fields and everything. And how can stuff hide? Well, if you actually pay attention to the fields, there's always woods in the backgrounds.
[00:19:00] And if they're creatures that are eating like food sources, like either prey or even if they hate on some of the stuff in the forest, like not saying they're like plant eaters, but they could eat stuff like that too. Like there's plenty of food sources for them here. Yeah. Yeah. You got what? Lots of deer and you know, the deer, the rabbit and all sorts of different little critters running around.
[00:19:28] We have all sorts of little reptiles and fish and corn and beans and anything else they could want to get their hands on. And I've heard people talk about, they've seen them rooting around in their trash cans before. Yeah. That's the other part with the length of my sister's trash cans back there towards the back by the little wooded area. Yeah.
[00:19:50] I spoke to someone before that they talked about, uh, I think that was actually, they said it was a big foot and a dog man together, which I've heard random stories about that too, but they were apparently over by a bunch of trash cans. And the lady that I spoke to recently, she was out walking a dog and out by their dumpsters or whatever towards the grassy area was also a dog man watching her. So it seems to be like they're kind of close to river systems, but also where people keep the garbage. Yeah.
[00:20:20] Cause people throw a lot of stuff out. So, you know, like this time of year, you know, right there, it'd be easier to go through a garbage can than go actually find it, you know, cause everything's pretty much hiding and hibernating. Yeah. So that's the, with it being winter time, it's food sources aren't as plentiful as it is when it's springtime.
[00:20:41] That's what also I think is interesting is most sightings typically are in the winter time and early spring or late fall, which makes sense because there's not a whole lot of growth. So if you're in Indiana or for just about anywhere that has like cornfields, you're not going to see these things in the fields. And if you're in the woods, the woods have leaves and all the overgrowth of the brush and stuff. So you're not going to see them in there that easily either. So it makes sense that a lot of these sightings typically are when it's kind of like dead out there as far as winter time.
[00:21:12] Yeah. And you saw this back in March. So again, March would have been, there wouldn't have been leaves and a whole bunch of stuff growing. Yeah. It had a short snout on it and it had yellow eyes. It looked like head mange, you know, you know, we're missing hair on the head. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever get a look at, see what type of paws it had? If it had normal hands, like a human?
[00:21:38] It had like hand style with big claws on the front part. Like you see, like, let's say off the movie Howling. Okay. And then the bottom half was more like a dog style. The way it's legs were standing. Did it have like that backwards bend, like a dog's back leg? Yes. Okay. Yes.
[00:22:03] That's, that's what I find interesting about it because if it's, I've always said it, if there are people screwing around with someone, someone in a costume, which is asinine to even suggest, but if people are dumb enough to go out there and try that, they can't mimic the legs properly. There's no way they could do the legs unless they're having like some Hollywood sort of rigging system to make them be able to walk like that. There's just no way that a human can walk like how a dog's legs bend.
[00:22:30] Well, here's the other part that is they wouldn't be able to open up their mouth in a regular costume. You know, where that whole mouth coming out, opening up where you can see the teeth and everything. And then it shuts back down. Yeah. You know, and then walk bill with that bend, like you're saying right there, they it'd be more of a up and down. Yeah.
[00:22:56] They would have to take a lot of money and like a professional team to build a suit like that. And there's just no way someone's going to fork that money over just to walk out in someone's backyard and possibly get their head blown off. Yeah. Yeah. That's the other kicker. Yeah. I don't, you know, I don't.
[00:23:15] When people say it's just people hoaxing someone, I'm like, well, maybe some instances, but not stuff like this, because if you're that close to someone, they're all getting a good look at you. There's no way that it's a hoax in the sense of someone in a costume, because again, you're, you're pretty ballsy that you might not get your head blown off. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and Indiana is a right to carry state. So, you know, open to still, you know, so.
[00:23:46] That is the one thing that, uh, I've been, I've been hesitant to talk about it too much, but with it being Indiana and we do have the right to carry. I go out and I film a lot of things for the stuff that I do. And I always make sure I have something with me. Yes, I would. After seeing this thing, I wouldn't go in the wood. I wouldn't go fishing without carrying a gun.
[00:24:14] Here's the kicker though, for a lot of people is I don't even know if our guns would do anything besides just piss it off. Like you would have to get like a pretty much a good shot right to the eye socket or something to try and, uh, I said, I wouldn't, I, that thing I saw in the middle of the road, I wouldn't take no 22 to. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's just going to make it mad to where it's probably going to be even worse off for the person shooting at it. Yeah.
[00:24:41] Uh, that's like, that'd be like taking a BB gun to a grownup. Right. Yeah. So that's where I struggle with too. I was like, I see people going out there with all these assault rifles and everything. I was like, well, here's my thought process on a lot of stuff. If they're intelligent enough, they probably know what a gun is. If they've been encountered around humans or have any sort of higher intelligence than they probably realize what guns are. So if you're walking out there with assault rifles, like an AR or something, they're probably not going to come around and screw with you anyways.
[00:25:12] No, I wouldn't take that chance right there. Cause regular bullet off something like an automatic going off right there. And actually hit somebody, you just feel, you know, right. Yeah. You know, right there protecting yourself, you know, right there is one thing, you know, but an automatic or something like that, that there ain't no need for all that. That's kind of how I feel about it too.
[00:25:35] When I watch these other podcasts and other video things out there and they're out hunting cryptids and they're trying to bring a body back and everything. I was like, you've got like five or six guys running around the woods with like semi-automatic assault rifles. Like you're going to get probably in more trouble with the law because they're going to think you're out there doing some sort of militia type stuff rather than tell someone you're out here hunting cryptids. And they're going to think you're even more crazy. Yeah. And then here's the other thing.
[00:26:03] It seems like, I don't know if these things can sense when somebody's hunting them. Cause like when they're hunting them, they never run into them, but the person that ain't hunting them runs into them. Yep. That's a, the other thing I've talked about too, is like, usually when the people are looking for these things, they never find them. But when you're not looking for them and don't even think anything about them is when people have their experience with them.
[00:26:25] I think that there's some sort of unwritten rule of the world, I guess, that people have their encounters half the time or more than half the time when they're not expecting to have anything. Cause usually if you look at these shows and all these other researchers and everything that spends years upon years out looking for stuff, they rarely ever find anything. Well, the part I think is really interesting on this road, certain road.
[00:26:52] When you turn off the highway that I seen this thing, you'll see a roadkill where somebody just hit a deer and then go 20 minutes later down that same spot. And that deer is gone. They might know that, uh, that's an area where they get easy food. Cause I, I interviewed some lady that she was, I think from Frankfurt. So not completely down by you, but still a little South of me. And she saw one about 20 years ago, eating roadkill.
[00:27:23] She said it was along the edge of the road. It was during the day. It was like about seven o'clock in the morning. So the sunshine out, she's seen it. Everything was like great. I'm pretty sure she said it was great. It was just, they're eating roadkill like a normal animal, but it was just so much bigger as a watch. Does it like, it wasn't a normal like dog or coyote. Cause it just how large it was. Yeah. So I don't know. There's, there's definitely something out there because you've seen things. I've talked to so many people who've seen things.
[00:27:51] I've seen something like we all can't just be hallucinating these imaginary creatures. You know what I mean? Yeah. You said something on there that you said you saw something back in 2007 or something right there, or 2009. That was all black. Yeah. The thing I saw was all black. It looked like a very furry wolf. Like everything about it looked like a wolf. It didn't have the fingers or the claws like you described.
[00:28:18] It had more like normal dog looking paws, but it walked and stood up like a human. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's the part I, I'm kind of wondering, maybe you're saying like a juvenile and what I've seen was what's a full grown version. Maybe because what I saw also wasn't super tall. It was only, I'm six foot three. You said you're six, four, I'm six, three, and we were about the same height. It was a little with its ears that have been a little bit taller than me, but we were about eye to eye.
[00:28:48] Yeah. On the black one, talking about the ears. Now the black one I saw, you know how the ears go straight up, like on a German shepherd or a wolf, how they go straight up. Yes. These here more went kind of like sideways, straight up. So more off to the side. Yes. I've heard that too, from a couple of different people. Like some say that they're right on top and then others say that they were more off to the side. Yeah. This here was more off to the side.
[00:29:18] Did that one have a tail too? Yes. See other people say they don't have tails. And that's what makes me wonder is like, well, how come some have tails and some don't have tails? How come some have ears that stick up and others say they have ears on the side? So it's, there's gotta be different variations to these things, but people say the same thing about Bigfoot too. Yeah. Some are white, some are gray, some are brown, some are, someone said that they've seen like a tan colored one.
[00:29:44] And that's the, you know, I've seen bears, you know, a black bear every now and then, you know, walking. Cause we, we have them, we have them in Illinois. You know, this thing was bigger than a bear. That is the one thing that people, at least up here. And I've said it before. I was like, the things that we see people say are bears.
[00:30:09] Like Indiana doesn't really have bears in the sense, like you would have further south or further north, but like people know what a bear is. You're not going to mistake in a bear for a canine. Like when I see a bear, I know that's a bear. I don't know if too many people, even if we don't have bear here, I'm not going to mistake that for a dog, you know? Yeah. They also don't walk like canines. Yes.
[00:30:39] And they're upright. They're just upright all the time, you know, not all the time, but every time I, that one that was standing up, I couldn't tell what type of feet it had, but I could see the color of it. How fast was it when it took off? The first one. That first one was quick. Because you said the other one was just kind of walking like it didn't really have any nonchalantly, like it didn't care. Yeah.
[00:31:06] That other one, when I stopped the truck right there, it walked off like, like it had no care about me being there. So that tells me that this thing's been around people. Yeah. Yeah. Which is in itself kind of scary in a way that are we supposed to be afraid of it? Is it supposed to be afraid of us? Like, is there a mutual understanding of it? You know what I mean?
[00:31:31] Like if, if I was to ever come face to face with one again, I don't know how I would actually react. I say, I want to see another one, but if I got an opportunity to be up close to it, obviously I'm going to try and get some sort of proof. But by me going after proof, does that mean it's going to kill me? Yeah. That's the whole kicker. You don't know how you're going to do this. And it plays in my nightmares every night over this after seeing it in the roadway.
[00:31:58] And by what we're talking about and the way it walked off, like maybe somebody, cause there's houses in the area right there. So I don't know if somebody's feeding this thing, thinking that's a regular dog. I haven't actually come across anyone that I'm aware of that have reported anything of them feeding one. But I do remember someone claiming that there was one that brought their pups around and they fed the pups.
[00:32:26] It wasn't on my show, but I remember hearing it on somebody else's or something like that. And I was like, I mean, if they're an animal, I guess it would make sense that it would bring its little ones around. But again, well, cause we've got, what is this whole bunch of animal lovers out here? So somebody not knowing what this thing is. And let's say they've been feeding it since it was a pup. Right. Yeah.
[00:32:54] I've heard stories of people doing that with Bigfoot, like they gift Bigfoot peanut butter and they give apples and stuff like that. I was like, I don't know if someone's really out here trying to be gifting stuff to dog man, because again, all the stories you hear about dog man compared to Bigfoot, Bigfoot usually just leaves people alone, just kind of watches it goes about its business. Most of the stuff you hear about dog man though, is it's not as easy going as what a Bigfoot typically sounds like to me.
[00:33:21] They're most of the stories you hear from people are very hostile, but when I had my experience and saw what I saw, it just wanted to get away. Kind of like what happened with you guys. Like it wasn't coming after us. It literally, we, it was just trying to get out of there. Well, that 40 cow, when it went off, that sounded like a big old pop, you know, cause he pulled it out and shot. Right. And that thing was gone. Right.
[00:33:47] Which again, they have to know what a gun is cause that noise scared it enough. So it's going to learn. And if these things are intelligent, even not even if it has like remote intelligence, like a person, even animals know after a while they learn like dogs can learn. Like you can train a dog, people train wolves.
[00:34:08] So if these things are more intelligent than just the basic dog, basic canine, they're obviously going to know what a gun is and what people are doing and how to avoid them and when to avoid them and when not to avoid them. I just remember the neighbor, her neighbor came out the next day and goes, man, did you hear that gunshot go off? And my sister goes, yeah, we were shooting at something. We don't know what it was, you know? And he goes, I've been saying things that I don't know what they are and just left it alone. And nobody heard or seen anything since.
[00:34:38] Well, if you talk to your sister again sometime soon, maybe bring it up to her, ask if her or her neighbor ever seen anything strange after that. Yeah, I will. I'd definitely be curious to know if anything else has been going on because what I've gathered from just doing my show and the people that I've spoken with, typically these things are around more than just once. So I don't know if they've kind of migrate through here, maybe they travel.
[00:35:08] So you might see a couple here and there, but for the most part, I think they kind of, if they find a food source, they're probably like other predators. They kind of stick around while the food's still there. Yeah. You know, we're doing research trying to figure out what that thing was. We ended up watching this TV show called Mountain Monsters and then went from Mountain Monsters to what, Sons of Appalachia? Yeah. Yeah. And they're right there, stuff you never heard of. It's like, whoa.
[00:35:41] When you reached out to me, kind of curious, how did you come across me? Oh, your friend, what's his name? Another guy, he reached out on my post off of Facebook and he said, you need to get a hold of you. Okay. Hold on, I'm going in to bring up his name real quick. Yeah. Cause you said someone recommended you reach out to me and I was just kind of curious of who, who. He said he was a good friend of yours. He's on your friends on Facebook.
[00:36:14] Larry Letell. Okay. Yeah. Larry, he's in one of these groups that I'm involved in. I've never met him personally, but yeah. No, I definitely appreciate, uh, anyone from Indiana always reaching out just because I've been working on trying to film a documentary up in my area. And then I'm always curious to talk to other people from Indiana because I feel like Indiana is one of those states that everyone just kind of ignores. Yeah.
[00:36:42] You know, I've reached out and talked to this other lady, I think it was back in Thanksgiving area. And it's more like, it just blows you off, you know, like she ain't interested in that. You're more interested in the, uh, Bigfoot sightings. Mm hmm. And that was Heather more, more something. Yeah. Oh, she's a part of your friends too.
[00:37:06] I've got almost 5,000 people on there and I can honestly tell you, I know probably none of them doing what I do. A lot of people, uh, add me and they listen to the podcast and other things. So I only know a handful of people here and there. I kind of, kind of like being reluctant or a recluse, I guess. So not too many people know me. Yeah. That's the best way you're right there.
[00:37:32] So then people ain't, cause people are very judgmental and very cruel. Yep. That is the one thing about doing what I do is I get a lot of strange looks when I make posts or people see me in public and people laugh and everything else. But at this point I just don't care. And that's what I've tried to tell everyone else is like, you can talk with me. I'm not going to judge anyone because I know what it's like not to be able to talk about stuff like this because most of the people think you're a lunatic. Yeah.
[00:38:02] That's the whole part to, I would have been one of them people back in 2017 until you experienced something like this. There is no need to be judgmental because sin is believing. Aaron is believing. Yeah. There's, there's a whole lot of stuff out there that I don't think the average person knows. And I think a lot of people actually have had some sort of experience. They just typically don't accept it as an experience like that.
[00:38:31] They just kind of write it off. So they could be seeing something strange, even something maybe paranormal. And we think it's a coincidence or that's just odd and we don't really think about it and they go about their business, but they never really consider the fact that, you know, maybe there was really something around the corner that you just didn't know about. Yeah. I'm a hundred percent with you on that one. Before we wrap this up, what do you think these things could actually be?
[00:38:59] I know we mentioned kind of the government and stuff like that, but do you think they're a flesh and blood creature? Do you think there's some sort of supernatural element to them? I don't know about the super nationals right there, but flesh and blood, I would say flesh and blood. Because what you've experienced, you haven't seen anything that like some of these other people report, there wasn't anything strange about it. It just seemed to be more of a normal animal the way it reacted for you. Yeah.
[00:39:29] It walked off bright a lot. Like you see on these shows where they say it's a foggy night. You see Bigfoot, you know, right there's a UFO flying overhead, you know, there wasn't nothing like that I knew of. Yeah. No, I get that. A lot of people, everyone has their own opinion. I don't say anyone's wrong. I don't say anyone's right. Cause at the end of the day, I don't know. And I don't think anyone really out there has much of an idea either. So it's all just kind of our opinions. Yeah.
[00:40:00] Well, Jason, it has been a pleasure talking to you. It's been a pleasure talking to you with you too. And if anything happens to come up again, uh, make sure to let me know. I've got one of them dash cam things going on in my truck now, you know, so next time something like that walks by, I'm going to have it on video. Yep. Well, that's a great plan to have.
[00:40:23] I've, uh, consider that too, but I've been driving up and down the same road that happened to me almost for 20 years, been 19 years. And I've never seen anything like it again. So you never know. I feel like again, cause now I'm trying to see it. I'll, I'll probably never find it. Yeah. That's the whole part to like, when you forget about it and you don't ain't trying to see it no more. It's like, you know, right there, you'll see it. And when you're looking for it, you can never find it. Yep.
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