Ep. 176: Chem-Spray: Stalked by the Government

[00:00:03] And I just turned around and I pulled ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that. The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my headlights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were glowing red.

[00:00:30] I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me. And when he ends to tell them that he saw a UFO, they're basically like, what are you talking about? That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it. And that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.

[00:00:58] As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it felt like death. Welcome back to Tinfoil Tales. I'm your host, Brandon Wright. Tonight's episode, we're going to be joined by my guest, Ken. Ken reached out to me because he believes he's being targeted by the government. There's been a lot of strange things going on. He wanted to come on here and talk a little bit about that. But before we bring Ken on, if you've ever had an experience and you would like to be on an episode of Tinfoil Tales,

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[00:02:21] So if you're not a member of the YouTube page, make sure to go over there, subscribe, hit the notification bell. But we're going to go ahead now and bring Ken on and dive into the conversation. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I'd like to take this time to welcome my guest tonight, Ken. Thanks for coming on here and talking to me. Thanks for having me. Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself before we dive into it? Yeah. I have this condition called chemical sensitivity.

[00:02:54] And I started having problems back in 2009. And I was living in Elizabeth City at the time, North Carolina. And I noticed chemical fumes outside that were bothering me. But they didn't bother anybody else. And I could smell them. And they were probably about five or six different chemicals that they were using at the time that I could smell outside. And they would affect me.

[00:03:23] They, you know, they make me feel bad and a little bit ill. But nobody else noticed them. And so after a few days, I noticed the chemicals were strongest near the Coast Guard base that they had in town and near the river. And I called the EPA in North Carolina and they said they'd inspect the area.

[00:03:51] And then a few days after the inspection, I noticed it would seem like I started getting sprayed myself. I would, I'd be out in the car, we're going around town. And I'd come home, park the car in the driveway. And I'd get out and there would just be chemicals swirling all around the yard and around my legs and, you know, just freshly sprayed. And I was, I was like, and at first I thought, well, it's probably just a coincidence.

[00:04:20] Cause I noticed they would spray, they would go around spraying anyway. And I, you know, I guess this was the military doing some kind of chemical spraying, but, you know, I'd noticed it all around town, but like I said, it was strongest near the base and the river. And so I said, well, they just came by on doing their daily spraying and I just have to come by at the same time.

[00:04:47] But then it happened the next day and I was still like, I didn't want to believe that they were after me. I said, well, that's just a coincidence. But then it, it happened the third day and I said, they're after me. And it just, it just blew my mind. Cause I, I, I didn't think things like that happened in America. Um, but it was like my whole world just came crashing down around me. And my, my whole belief system just was shattered in an instant.

[00:05:17] And then I thought to myself, of course they're coming after me. Why wouldn't they, um, you know, they've got the power, they've got the means. I mean, so, uh, so then I, once I realized that they were it, after that, it just got worse.

[00:05:36] It just, every day it seemed to pick up and they were spraying the house and I can never see anybody doing it, but they seem to be close by. And cause, cause the wind would just whip. There would be days when the wind was just so random, just whipping back and forth. And they could spray the part of the house that I was in. No problem. They could just target that side of the house.

[00:06:04] And, uh, and once again, you know, these, and what was strange about these chemicals was they would disappear in like three minutes, three to five minutes if they stopped spraying. Uh, so they were really, really volatile. And, uh, so, so what they had to do, it seemed like I was always covered in chemicals. They're always spraying me. I was getting fumes everywhere and these things were so volatile.

[00:06:32] They would easily permeate into the house. And, uh, and, um, but like I said, if they stopped spraying it gone in minutes. And, uh, you know, so that way you can't call anybody and tell them to come over. Hey, come over. I'm getting sprayed. And there'd be nothing to, uh, to analyze. There'd be no samples to collect nothing.

[00:06:58] And, um, so that, that went on and it just kept increasing. And when I would go out into the town, the chemicals would follow me. The roads would get sprayed in front of me. Um, if I go into a store, a lot of times when I, when I drove to the store, they, they, the chemicals would already be there.

[00:07:22] And, um, but quite often what would happen if I was with somebody else, I'd go to a store and sometimes the other people could smell the chemicals. And, and sometimes they couldn't all depend on it. Usually they could smell them if we were outside. So I'd, I'd go to a store, park in the parking lot. Everything's fine. Go into the store with somebody else. And then we'd both come out and we could smell the chemicals. Like the whole parking lot would be sprayed.

[00:07:50] And, and I'd say to them, do you smell those chemicals? They go, yeah. And I said, they weren't there before, were they? And they go, no, no. Okay. And that happened quite often. Um, they always knew where I was going. Uh, you know, I'd pull into a, like, uh, one time I was with my son and we pulled into a Taco Bell and we immediately smelled bleach. And he said it before I did. He said, Oh, bleach. Like, you know, it came, we were in the parking lot and came right through into the car.

[00:08:19] And, uh, oh boy, that just kept going and going and the chemicals would get stronger and stronger. Um, and then, and then I, we moved to, uh, Wilmington, North Carolina. And, uh, and, uh, somebody wanted me, a family member wanted me to drive up to New York.

[00:08:49] So I got in my car and I drove up to New York and I had bumper stickers on my car that at that time I had a website talking about the chemical spraying. And what I, what I figured out that it was, it was, they were actually doing chemical dumping. Cause like I said, I would find it in rivers and things like that. And I think what they were doing is taking chemicals. They didn't need like waste chemicals and mixing them.

[00:09:17] With, uh, with something volatile, another chemical that would make it super volatile. And so when they sprayed them in the air or dumped them in the water, they would just evaporate and disintegrate. And so that way they didn't need a burn facility to get rid of their chemicals. They just spray them in the air. And then I was thinking, well, maybe that's what chemtrails are. Maybe that's just high atmosphere, atmospheric chemical dumping. You know, they're just loading up planes with chemicals.

[00:09:46] They don't want mixing them, you know, make them super volatile, taking the planes up and just spraying them out and letting them disintegrate. Um, that way they could do, you know, they could do chemicals that are more dangerous. They could, they could spray chemicals in higher concentrations. Like, like instead of, you know, if they had chemicals that aren't so bad, they can do those on the ground, but the chemicals that are stronger, they could take them up into airplanes. But that, you know, that's just a speculation.

[00:10:16] Um, so then, like I said, I was, I went to New York and on my way up, I went through Washington, D.C. And I had these bumper stickers on my car talking about my website. And, uh, and, and, you know, one of the bumper stickers said military chemical dumping and my website address. And so when I came back home, I started getting microwaved.

[00:10:44] And so I didn't feel it at first, but I felt the floor vibrating beneath me and I didn't know what was going on, but, and it kept like that. And if I moved to a different room, it would, the vibration would follow me, but I didn't feel anything. But then after a few days, I would, I would feel the microwaves at night while I was sleeping, they would get stronger.

[00:11:09] And, and then after a few weeks, I would feel the microwaves all the time. So, so what happened was, so now two people have sort of fingered me, you know, I've been, I've been targeted twice. Something that isn't supposed to happen to anybody in America has now happened to me twice. First time was with, you know, they, they targeted me with chemicals.

[00:11:37] And then somebody else said, you know, some, a new person said, Hey, we got to upgrade this guy to microwave. So it's twice. Something isn't supposed to happen to anybody. So, so then, and, and just like the chemicals, the microwaves would just keep getting stronger and stronger.

[00:11:57] And in the beginning I could use like simple forms of protection, you know, like those, those metallic, those mylar metallic emergency blankets that you use when it's, you know, you put them in your pocket. And then if you get cold and you can wrap them around yourself, those kind of helped. But then after a while I had to use like foil, solid foil, aluminum foil.

[00:12:25] And then even later I had, I'd use steel. I bought lead aprons and those helped. And a lot of times I'd lay down a lead apron and go, Oh, that's great. Yeah. I can just use that. And then a week later it would just go right through the lead apron. They just keep cranking up the, the microwaves. And, and it's like, and I didn't know how they were getting so close to me. I mean, these, these microwaves are coming out of the walls and the ceilings.

[00:12:57] And, and I noticed that neighbors were getting recruited. Like I'd get this thumping, like the people above me would, would stomp right over my head and it would follow me. And it would just be me that would get stomped on. And then, and then there was a guy to the side of us that got recruited and he would, it sounded like he was hitting the wall with a battering at RAM.

[00:13:23] And I don't know what kind of attacks these were, but if I put up foil, you know, if the guy was above me, the recruited person, I'd put up foil on the ceiling. And then the pounding would be outside the foil. They'd go around it. And likewise, that guy was on the side of me. I'd put up foil on the wall and he would go to the side of the foil. He would go where the foil isn't to do the pounding. So I didn't, you know, I didn't know what they were doing, but they were doing something.

[00:13:53] And, and yeah, they could always tell where I was in the apartment. But, but yeah, it always, even when they were just spraying chemicals, it always seemed like, you know, they were just out of reach. Like they were close by, but I couldn't see them. And I thought maybe they were using like really super duper surveillance techniques to, to seem invisible.

[00:14:21] You know, like they could get close to me, but I could never see them because, you know, maybe they had satellites that could look right into your house or, you know, right through the roof. And, you know, maybe they could, they could tell if anybody was looking out their window so that they could, you know, at night they could move around unseen. But it seemed like they had some sort of trickery that they were using to not be seen. But I didn't know what it was. I thought it was some super type of surveillance.

[00:14:52] And, but then at night, it seemed like they would move in closer when they were spraying me. And, and the chemicals would get really, really strong. And I even went out one time. I, you know, one time I waited for them. I got in bed and I waited for them to spray me at night. And they did, it got really strong. And I ran out to the backyard and I could see, well, I could sense where the chemical spray was.

[00:15:20] There was like this wedge shaped pattern on the grass and I could walk across the lawn and I could tell where the chemicals were. They would just rise up, you know, and I could smell them. And, and, um, I could, I could tell that they were right at the property line. They were spraying me right at the property line, but nobody saw them. I mean, no, no neighbors ever saw anybody. I never saw anybody.

[00:15:48] So then I started thinking that, uh, they had some sort of, uh, nighttime invisibility where, where maybe, you know, if it's dark enough and they're far away enough, then you can't see them. You know, it's not perfect, but, but at night you just, if you're far enough away, you just won't see them. That's what I was figuring. Um, but, uh, I was later, I realized I was wrong.

[00:16:19] Um, so what happened? So they were, so let's go back to when they were Mike, when they started microwaving me. Um, like I said, the microwaves, they'd follow me all, all throughout the apartment. Then we moved to an apartment when I was in Wilmington and, um, so, and it seemed like any apartment I was in, they recruited people. It never failed. I would move almost every year and they were always able to recruit somebody.

[00:16:49] So, so yeah, the microwaves, they would start, they would just get stronger and stronger. Um, and, um, and then I went to this one apartment and the apartment below me, I didn't realize it at the time when I rented it, but the one, the unit below me was empty.

[00:17:13] Um, and so I moved into this apartment and then two months later, um, somebody moved into the apartment below me. And that's when things got really crazy. Um, they were just young people and they never went anywhere. They, they smoked marijuana all day long, never left the apartment. Sometimes people would bring them food. I hardly ever saw them leave. All they did was smoke marijuana all day long.

[00:17:42] They're supposed to be students, but I didn't see anybody ever going to school. So it was really strange, really strange situation. And, uh, that's when it seemed like, uh, they were using invisible people on me. I was starting to get chemicals in my food and I don't know, nobody was coming in. I would barricade the door and I would even bring food home from the store, put it in the fridge.

[00:18:13] And then like an hour later, go to drink it or eat it, whatever. And I could taste chemicals. And so they were doing it practically right in front of me. And, uh, so this, this happened quite a bit. And so I, I don't know how they were getting into the apartment. I mean, I checked for trap doors. It was, it was crazy.

[00:18:39] And then, and then I even took a big stick because I figured, okay, there's invisible people in here. I know it, but why can't I touch them? So I took a big stick and I was running around the apartment, just poking in all the corners of the ceiling and whatnot. And I couldn't touch anything. So I said, I said, this is crazy. And these, I have invisible people that I can't even touch. And I never heard of that. You know, I, I never even heard a theory about that.

[00:19:07] You know, they always tell you, oh, invisibility, you know, it's, uh, they bend light to go around an object and that's how they make it invisible. But that's not what was happening here. And, um, so it just got crazier. It, um, I started getting chemical attacks again too. Uh, I would put a, like a lot of times when I got a chemical attack, I'd put a blanket over my head and I had,

[00:19:35] and I had an air cleaner with me, an air filter, and I'd run that thing. But then they started pumping chemicals under the blanket. And, you know, there's nobody there. And then another time they started spraying chemicals into the room that bothered my eyes. It would sting my eyes. And so then I started wearing goggles and then they started pumping the chemicals inside the goggles. And so it would make it worse.

[00:20:03] I was, I was better off with the goggles off because the chemicals would just build up inside the goggles. And, you know, I, I would never feel like chemicals being sprayed into the goggles. They would always just, they would just appear and they would just, they would just gradually build up over a few seconds. Um, so it was very, very, very strange.

[00:20:26] Um, so, so years, maybe two years went by and I was, I was Googling like, uh, government invisibility, CIA invisibility. And I couldn't come up with anything. Uh, and I had no idea what they were doing. Um, but I knew they had invisibility and I knew I couldn't touch them. And, and I figured, well, if I can't touch them, then the walls can't touch them. And that's how they come through the walls.

[00:20:56] They can just enter, they can just go wherever. And, uh, so like I said, yeah, it was just Googling invisibility and not coming up with anything. And then I, I tweeted to Neil deGrasse Tyson and I, I did this stupid little tweet. I didn't even think he'd read it. I said, how does their government, how does the government invisibility work?

[00:21:18] I know it's not light based and he didn't tweet back, but I think he read it because I went to my website and, um, somebody read it and, uh, I got a lot of traffic on my website. Um, so he never, he never tweeted back, but, um, maybe about six weeks later, I got this video that popped up in my YouTube queue and it talked about the fourth dimension.

[00:21:48] It said fourth dimension invisibility. I go, Oh, what's that? Let's look. And so I watched the video and it explained that if there were a fourth dimension, you know, a higher dimension, a person could hide in that dimension and they would seem invisible to people in three, in the 3d world. And they would have access to you, but you wouldn't have access to them. Uh, so, and they'd have access to your inside.

[00:22:19] You know, they could, they could maybe pull your heart right out of your chest without cutting you open and do things like that. And, uh, so I said, well, I guess there is a theory, but I never heard of it before. Why am I just hearing about it now? This is really strange. This is, it's, it's almost like they're keeping it from us.

[00:22:40] You know, they don't want to talk about it because I did, you know, a few years before that, I, I saw a documentary on invisibility and I think the whole purpose of the documentary was just propaganda to show you how, how crude our attempts are at invisibility. And they don't want you, you know, they want you to not worry that, that they don't want you to worry that the government has any type of invisibility. So they never talked about interdimensional invisibility.

[00:23:10] You know, they wanted to make it look like, oh, we're, we're trying to make invisibility, but it's so crude. You know, we just can't do it. There's just no way. So don't worry. So, so just a second. Okay. So let's see. Yeah.

[00:23:35] And so basically, this fourth dimension, you know, we're all used to three dimensions, the 3D world. And, you know, in the 3D world, we have length, width and height.

[00:23:58] And, and so this fourth dimension, it would have to be a new direction that we can't go, we can't penetrate, we can't move in. But I guess they found some way to move in this fourth direction. And once you can move in that four directions, in that fourth direction, that gives you four directions of movement. And, and, and once you do that, then you enter a 4D space.

[00:24:24] And so I was, so that's how they're doing the invisibility. You know, that's the only theory that I've ever heard of. So, and it, it, I mean, it answers, you know, it checks all the, it checks all the, the check marks or the check blocks off. It fits like a glove. So I said, well, this must be what they're doing.

[00:24:50] But, you know, they won't, it seems like science won't really talk about a fourth dimension. Or if they do talk about higher dimensions, they always say, oh, well, it's, these dimensions are tiny and you can't enter them. You know, don't worry. They're not, you can't enter them. That's why, that's why you can't go into the fourth dimension. If there was a fourth dimension, you could go into it. Well, why can't you go into it? Well, it must be really tiny. But I don't think that's it at all. I mean, they seem to have found a way to get into, into that fourth dimension.

[00:25:18] And then I was wondering, I don't know, maybe a year or so later, I was wondering, well, why is there this fourth dimension? Why is there an area that I can't get into? Why does the universe have a restricted area? And then I, and then I thought, oh, well, everything has a restricted area. You know, if you look at any object around you, like a clock, it has a restricted area.

[00:25:45] It has, it has a, like a, an inside area where the workings are, you know, where the gears and all that, all that sort of stuff is. So if you want to use the clock, everything you need is on the outside. You know, you can read the time, you can set the time, you can change the batteries if you have to. Everything to, and to interact with that clock, everything you need is accessible on the outside.

[00:26:12] So you're not really supposed to go in its interior because you could damage the clock. So, and everything's like that. A car is like that. A car has an engine. The engine's tucked away. It's away from the operating environment. Your refrigerator, all the, the, the compressor and all the things that make the refrigerator produce, you know, to produce cold air. It's, it's tucked away on the inside. And, and even after that, they shove the whole thing up against a wall. They don't want you going in there.

[00:26:42] It's designed to keep you out. And so, so everything was, everything is like that. And so, well, isn't that weird that, that nobody talks about that? You know, the, you know, nobody says, Hey, everything has an interior where the working components are. Maybe the universe is like that too.

[00:27:09] And then I was thinking, well, what, what would be the, the inner working of the universe? And I said, Oh, it's got to be the fabric of space. It's what creates gravity. You know, they're always talking about the fabric of space, how it's, it seems to be this real thing that can be distorted. And, you know, if you, if you take a planet, a heavy object, like a planet, it, it automatically distorts the fabric of space around it.

[00:27:39] But I mean, where is that fabric of space? We can't see it. We can't touch it. Nobody explains where it is, but it must be in this restricted area, which is the fourth dimension. And maybe, I guess they found out some hack, some, some way to hack the universe to enter that fourth dimension and create invisible agents.

[00:28:05] And, you know, this is just something that nobody wants to talk about. And, and then I was thinking, Oh, well, that's, and, you know, I've also heard that to, to do interstellar travel, you know, you have to go faster than speed of light. And it seems like the only way to do that would be to distort the fabric of space, to manipulate it and to use that to propel your vehicle.

[00:28:35] And, and I was thinking, Oh yeah, well, that makes perfect sense. Cause if, if you enter the fourth dimension, if you go into 40 space and access the, the fabric of space to go faster than light, well, you don't have to worry about space debris. Cause there isn't going to be any, right. You're not going to collide into any space debris, which could destroy your craft. So that solves that problem too.

[00:29:02] So, and then, and these are things that scientists won't talk about. And, but they will talk about weirder things. I've heard them talk about things like, Oh, we could be living in a, in the, in the matrix. You know, we could be living in a, in a simulated reality run by artificial intelligence. And, you know, they'll explore that possibility. And, and, but they won't.

[00:29:31] They won't, they won't explore the possibility of entering a higher dimension to travel to other planets. But, but that's what's, that's how the spaceships and star Wars work. And star Wars is like the, the most popular science fiction movie of all time. And it, and when they go into hyperspace, that's what they're doing. They're entering a higher dimension to go faster than light, but they still won't talk about it.

[00:29:59] But they'll talk and also talk about the multiverse. They'll talk about, you know, infinite number of universes where there could be other copies of you, except, you know, you're, you're more successful. You know, you're a movie star in that, in that other universe, things like that. And so they're willing to talk about all these crazy things, but they stay away from that fourth dimension. They just won't go near it. And it just seems pretty odd.

[00:30:25] It seems like it's, I mean, it just seems like a conspiracy on their part, not to talk about it. And I think, I guess, I guess a lot of it is, you know, it would change. It'd be too big a change on society.

[00:30:48] I mean, if society knew that they were invisible agents, I could just fly right into your house and do whatever, read your mind, go through all your stuff. Things would change. I mean, you know, the government wouldn't, they would lose some of the control they have over you. And it would alter the way people lived. In fact, I'm not really sure how, what they would do.

[00:31:17] But, you know, people like to think that they have some sort of privacy and that they're free. And, you know, if the government comes after them, you know, it'll be obvious. You know, they, you know, they'll be able to see it, be able to prevent it, be able to sue somebody, you know, stuff like that.

[00:31:37] But, yeah, I don't think people are ready for invisible agents just to fly right into their house and start microwaving them or putting chemicals in their food, reading their mind. And that's another thing they can do. They can read minds. That's the first thing I figured out. That's going back to the time when they were just spraying me with chemicals. I was in my bedroom trying to sleep.

[00:32:03] And, you know, I just laid down to go to bed. And my mind was wandering. And I was thinking about sex. And I noticed when I thought about sex, the chemicals would stop. And it's like they were paying attention to what I was thinking about. And I noticed that right away. I go, oh. And so then I switched my thinking back to something else. And the chemicals started back up again.

[00:32:33] And I did that. I repeated that like six times. And the same thing happened every time. And so then that's when I realized they were reading minds. And they can do it easily. Like, it's no trouble at all. It's, I think they're just. And, you know, when I thought about it. I go, oh, yeah, that's probably the easiest thing they can do. Because, you know, everybody's brain emits brain waves. And so all they have to do is pick up the brain waves.

[00:33:02] And just, I don't know, somehow feed them back into somebody else's brain. You know, somebody that's going to monitor you. And I think that's what they were doing. Because it's instantaneous. And so they know everything before you're going to do it. And they also know. I think one of the main things they would use it for is to make sure I'm being tortured at the right level.

[00:33:29] You know, if they use a microwave on me and I found some way to minimize it, they'll know right away. And then they'll switch it. They'll switch to a different attack. And there have been times when I try to ignore the attacks. You know, they give me a really bad attack. And it's like, I don't like this one. And I'll just try to ignore it.

[00:33:58] And then maybe they'll think it doesn't bother me. And they'll switch to something else. And that never works. It never works. They always know if it's bothering me or not. Yeah. So, yeah, mind reading. That's one of the easiest things they can do. But, yeah, the invisibility, it's – I've never seen a glitch. You know, it's perfect. I've never seen – they're right next to me. They're on me. I've never seen, like, somebody pop in, pop out.

[00:34:28] It's really bizarre. It's infallible. They just never make a mistake. And it must be cheap. I mean, if they're using it on me, it can't be that hard to do. And it makes you wonder, well, who else are they using it on? So, yeah, it's pretty crazy stuff. Yeah.

[00:34:57] You're not the first person that I've talked to about stuff like this, to be honest. Oh, really? It's – one of the first people I talked to, so I guess it was, like, episode seven. And a lot of people, if they go back and listen to it, they're going to write it off because the guy admits that all of this started for him when he was on methamphetamine.

[00:35:22] But he believed that he was being, like, targeted and harassed by these invisible agents. He said they sprayed stuff on him. They were doing all sorts of stuff. He could, like – he could somewhat see them, but he couldn't see them. Like, you could see, like, a reflection, like, through a bottle.

[00:35:46] Like, you couldn't see it with your naked eye, but, like, you could see it, like, if you look at this – your black part of your phone, like, you don't have it on, but it's black. You might be able to see a glimpse of something moving on that. So – Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's weird. What I've come to think about, when you've mentioned this different dimension, and I wasn't really involved with the dimensions or portals or anything like that back a couple years ago when I started this show.

[00:36:15] But the one thing that seems to be a trend here lately that I've been noticing is the term interdimensional. And I interviewed someone last year. It was Mike Rickseger. He wrote a book called Time, the Fourth Dimension. But there's been other dimensions scientifically theorized.

[00:36:38] Can't really say they exist, but the calculations and mathematics prove that they're probably different dimensions. So, who's to say that these things, whatever they actually are, are from a different dimension? You're saying they're agents, but you've never actually seen them.

[00:37:04] I've never seen them, but I have heard people up in the attic. Like, I was on this – I was in this third-story apartment building, and at least three times I've heard people in the attic. And they were people, and they weren't walking. You know, if you had somebody in the attic and they're walking on the joist, you'd hear the creaking. But they weren't walking on the joists.

[00:37:32] Somehow they were moving around without walking. Maybe they were doing some kind of levitation. I don't know. But one time somebody dropped something. They dropped something kind of heavy. It sounded like it weighed about a pound. And they dropped it for maybe, you know, three feet. And it made this big thud right above my head. And then after that, I heard somebody talking up there. And I couldn't make out what they were saying because it was all muffled. But it was definitely a human voice.

[00:38:02] And, you know, that made me think if he's talking – well, there could be somebody else up there if he's talking. Or he could be talking into a microphone. I don't know. But he was talking. You know, he said something. It lasted maybe 10 seconds, and then it was gone. And then another time in the same apartment, I heard somebody twisting a screw into the wood. And I could hear it. Like, it was – no doubt about it.

[00:38:30] Somebody was twisting a screw into the wood. And I could even point to it. I'd go – it was above the kitchen sink. And then I heard them, like, drop the screwdriver. And then I heard them, like, shifting on the beams and fumbling for the screwdriver. And then I guess they got the screwdriver. And then I heard the twisting again. And that was, like, right over my head. I could point to it.

[00:38:58] So somehow – and the apartment I'm in now – so somehow, like I said, they're popping in and they're popping out. And the apartment I'm in now, I'm on the second floor, and there's an apartment above me. And about a year ago – well, less than a year ago – well, about a year ago, the people above me, they were recruited. They moved out. And for a long time, over six months, the apartment was vacant. And I could hear people up there moving around.

[00:39:28] I never heard footsteps. But if I went into a room, I'd hear somebody set down equipment right above me. And then one time, I got up out of bed. And as soon as I got up, I could hear somebody in the apartment above me. It's like they were sitting on the floor. And I can hear them getting up. And I can hear them sliding their legs around them to, you know, to stand up.

[00:39:59] And then later, I was in the living room. And it sounded like there were two people wrestling right above my head. And I said, well, maybe, you know, sometimes when maintenance comes in, I can hear them moving around. So maybe maintenance is up there. So I went to the window. I walked to the window, which overlooks the parking lot. And I looked for their maintenance cart. You know, they drive these little golf cart thingies. And I didn't see that.

[00:40:28] But instead, I saw one of the ladies from the office. She had driven her car into the parking lot and parked it. And she was walking toward the building. And it turns out somebody's water heater had busted. And she was coming over to look at it. And that was on the first floor. But that's what all that movement was in response to. They saw her coming. And they didn't know what she was doing here. And they thought maybe she was going to go into the apartment.

[00:40:56] So they had to, I don't know, scramble and get their equipment. You know, pick up their equipment and get out of there. And I think they're just popping in and popping out. You know, 4D popping in, 4D popping out. And I think it was after that. I'm not sure. But now we have this van parked out in the parking lot. And it doesn't move. It's a van with a high top.

[00:41:23] It's got these louvered blinds all over the windows. All the windows are covered. And you can't even look in the front windshield. Because there's a blind. There's a huge blind that goes across, you know, behind the seats. And then just recently, they tinted the windows. So now there's two layers of covering. There's tinted windows and the louvered blinds. And I think they're using it as storage for like, you know,

[00:41:51] when they need to, you know, if they need to pop in and pop out in case somebody comes over. And the van never moves. So I think it's, you know, sometimes I think about that. Is it some sort of interdimensional being that just lives in the fourth dimension? But I don't think there really is anything in the fourth dimension except the fabric of space. And there's nothing, you know, there's nothing to eat. There's only what you take in there.

[00:42:20] And, um, and, and like I had this, I had this idea. Remember I told you that they were spraying chemicals inside my goggles to bother my eyes. Well, anytime they did that, I never, and they would spray me with other things too sometimes, but I never felt the pressure of a spray. You know, they, they just, the chemicals just gradually materialized.

[00:42:45] So I was thinking, well, maybe they're, you know, they're, they spray them in the fourth dimension and the chemicals are just ejected out into the, the 3d world. Um, you know, there's like, um, you know, it's like when you hold a beach ball under the water and then you let go, it pops to the surface. So maybe that's what they're doing. Anything they release inside this 40 world, it can't stay there. It pops up.

[00:43:15] There's pressure, some kind of pressure in there and it pops up into the 3d world. And, uh, and I, and I think, well, and I was, and I was thinking, well, that's probably what the fabric of space is. It's like an ocean. And it, the deeper you go, the more pressure you encounter.

[00:43:37] And, um, so, you know, heavier planets will extend deeper because they're heavier. It's just like an ocean. The bigger the boat, the deeper it's going to sink before it gets buoyed up. Um, well, there's so much to think about, so much to talk about. So much has happened. This has been going on for so many years.

[00:44:02] I was going to ask, I didn't want to interrupt, but I know one of the biggest things when I have episodes like this, I get asked why I don't ask this question a lot, because I don't try and if you're familiar with my show, I don't try and prove or disprove anything that someone's trying to say. That's not what I'm about. But the number one thing that will be asked to me is why you? Like that's always the right.

[00:44:29] Like of all the people in the world, why are they doing this to you? Right. Um, yeah, I've thought about it. Um, man. The only thing I can figure is, well, first off, when I complained about the chemical, you know, chemical dumping and I got the, uh, EPA inspection going, they had to pause their dumping for a few days.

[00:44:55] So I think I just annoyed somebody and, you know, these are powerful people and they don't like it when little people get in their way. And I think that's part of it. They want to show me who's boss. But then another part is, and this might be a bigger part, where is that these, they've had these programs for a long time that go after people and, you know, they started

[00:45:19] them for one reason or another, uh, you know, probably way, way back, uh, since the beginning of government, I'm sure they've had programs that just go after people, like people they don't like. And, and these programs kind of, they're kind of like their own living, breathing organism. I mean, they, they want to thrive and they want to grow. Um, a lot of government programs are like that. They just, they want to get bigger.

[00:45:49] And I think they do things just to do things just to, um, you know, whoever's running that program to him, that's his world. That's, that's his empire and he wants it to do well and he wants it to grow and stay strong. And so they need people to go after, they need people to go after, to keep the program from atrophying. And they also need more people to go after so that the program can grow.

[00:46:19] And that's what government programs want to do. They want to get bigger. And it's just like all these senseless wars that we fight, like in the Middle East, like why are we even there? We were, we were in Afghanistan for 20 years for no reason and nothing came of it, but it's, it's not, it's not the winning of the war. It's the fighting of the war. It's the process. It's, um, you know, it's the, it's the, um, it's the running of it.

[00:46:49] It's the management of it. It's, these are jobs, these are jobs. And these are people that who, who want promotions and, uh, they want raises and it just runs itself. I mean, that's, that's the problem with government. Once something gets started, it just keeps going and it's very hard to end it. And usually they just want to get bigger. I mean, I think, I think every government program is like that. They just keep getting bigger and bigger and out of control.

[00:47:18] And so it's not me that's important. It's not the target that's important. It's the program that's important. It's the program that they need to keep going. And, um, and I think the only reason they ended the Afghanistan war after 20 years, because people are like, Hey, it's been 20 years. Come on. What's going on here? You know, they, they almost had no choice. Um, plus they had the Ukraine where they wanted to get going. So maybe that's why, but yeah, it's just stuff.

[00:47:47] Uh, it's just government bureaucracy basically. Um, that, and like I said, you know, these don't like it when little pipsqueaks get in their way, you know, like me. So. Yeah. I just, for me, it's, it's for me. And I, it's, I don't want to experience this type of stuff, so I can't relate to it, but like, it's hard to wrap your mind around it because like you said,

[00:48:18] for being a normal person or whatever, it just seems weird that they'd go through all this effort to do stuff like this. But to them, it is no effort. I mean, it's almost like, it's like, it's like you go into McDonald's and asking the people in the kitchen, why do you work so hard? You know what I mean? It's like, well, I got, I want to get paid. I want to make some money so I can take it home and buy some food.

[00:48:46] It's, it's, it's, it's really, I know a lot of people think that. I used to think that too. It's like, why do they go to this kind of trouble? But it's government. It is no trouble. And, and for them, it's, you know, they don't, they don't see it as anything wrong that they're doing. I mean, I don't know.

[00:49:09] It's, I don't think there is a, when it comes to agencies and other things, I don't necessarily think they have a good or bad agenda. I think they have that agenda as self-preservation. So they're going to do what they're going to do. And if this is actually what's going on, then I don't think you're, you're just, well, you're just there. You're not necessarily. Yeah, you're just there.

[00:49:39] You're just, you're just a pawn. You're just, you know, meat to put into the meat grinder. What I, what I see with, when it comes to government is that they always make the wrong decision. You know, if there's a choice between right and wrong, they usually go with wrong because that brings them more money and more power. Usually that's what every decision is based on money. Will this make me more money?

[00:50:06] Will this make me or us with the government more powerful? And that's usually what runs the show. I wish it were the other way around. I wish they, I wish they cared about the citizens and I wish they did things that were right. Occasionally, I think they, they must do some things that are right. I mean, offhand, I can't think of anything, but they must do some, but I'm constantly seeing things that, that, you know, things they shouldn't be doing. And it's like, why didn't they do this? Instead, they did that.

[00:50:36] And that's wrong. But yeah, I think it's, it's money and power. That's what, what controls what they do. It's hard for us to wrap our heads around it because, because they don't, they don't have to act responsibly. You know, they get taxpayer money, they borrow money, they print money, they can do whatever they want. There are no rules. Whereas, you know, when it comes to normal people, we have rules. You know, we have to do certain things. We can't spend too much money.

[00:51:06] We got to, you know, be nice or we go to jail with them. There's, there's, there's almost, there's no, there's no oversight. There's nobody they have to answer to. Um, and I think, I think a lot of it is money. They just have so much money that they're unstoppable. Rules and common decency just goes out the window. So, uh, but, uh, let's see.

[00:51:36] Oh, there. Oh, another thing they can do is, um, this sounds really weird, but, uh, they've done this a few times where they can pump a gas directly into my windpipe and I'll just, I can hardly breathe. I can't breathe. But if I open my mouth, I'll just, my mouth will be just billowing out gas like the tailpipe of a car. I can just stand there and my mouth open. You can't see it.

[00:52:04] Of course, it's, uh, it's clear, but I got this gas just coming straight out of my, my mouth and, and to breathe, I'll have to, I'll have to expel it, uh, very forcefully. And then they take a short breaths in. And the first time they did that, they did it for about a minute and a half and they've done it afterwards.

[00:52:29] They did it later too, but, uh, not as strongly, but that's something they can do. They have access to your insides and they can put chemicals in my mouth when my, I mean, yeah, they can put chemicals in my mouth and my throat. My mouth is closed. They put chemicals in my eyes. My eyes are closed. And, um, a few years ago used to be when I got microwaved, they were shooting like microwave guns at me, you know, things, actual rays.

[00:52:56] Uh, but now they still do that, but now their primary method of attack is nanobots. And these are nano means small or microscopic. So these are microscopic things and bots is short for robots. So these are like microscopic machines that they can program to do certain things. And you can't see them. They're too small to see too small to feel.

[00:53:27] And so they have these nanobots that can emit their own microwaves. And, um, so, so they started that. Maybe that was a few years ago. It's all, it's on my website. I have it kind of detailed when things, when certain things happened. Um, but, and the reason they do that is that you can't really, it's harder to shield against it.

[00:53:56] You know, before I was using shielding on my head. And like I said, you know, I had the, um, the lead aprons. And now I wear a lead vest all the time. Uh, but so like, if I've got a, like, you know, metal covering my head, if they put nanobots on my scalp, then the radiation, uh, generated by the nanobots gets reflected, you know, go

[00:54:26] up, hit the metal and then go get reflected back into my head. So it just makes it worse. So now that's their primary method of attack. And, um, and the things they like to use, they can use it on anything. And, and that's the thing they can, this sounds strange. You know, when you, when people think about other people being microwaved, you know, people say they're being microwaved and you just picture somebody with a tinfoil hat and you

[00:54:55] know, okay, you put a tinfoil hat on your head and you go about your day, but it's not like that. They can target individual body parts. Um, they, like I said, they can target my eyes. Uh, and you know, it's like, how are you doing that? How do you, how do you just target one little thing? Um, but their favorite things to do are number one is the brain and number two, the genitals. And then three is the liver.

[00:55:25] And, um, you know, they started doing my brain first. It was my joints. When I first started getting microwaved, I'd feel it in my joints and I was popping tendons. You know, if I, if I did anything with my hands, like struggling with my hands, I'd pop tendons in my hands. I was injuring them. And, uh, and I, my tendons were all withered. I had this like withered, you know, they were all stringy. It was weird. Uh, but then they started doing my brain. And, um, so I started having to cover that.

[00:55:55] But then, then when they started using nanobots, I had to use, I had to start using like wet towels on my head. So that's what I would do. I would put wet towels on my head and put it covered with a hat. And, um, I'd put a headband on and put wet towels underneath the headband. And that worked for about a month, maybe two months.

[00:56:20] And then, and then what happened was the water started making, you know, the wet towels started giving power to the nanobots. The nanobots got power from the water. I was like, oh my God, what am I going to do? And so I just, it drove, I had, I was in the car and I had these wet towels on my head and I could tell the nanobots were like in the water and just getting stronger.

[00:56:47] And I just ripped it off my head and, and I got relief after that. And then I said, well, what am I going to do? And that's what a lot of this is. It's like, they come after you with different ways and you got to figure out how to fight it. You know, you got to figure out what kind of countermeasure can I use against this thing? And then once you figure it out, they change it up. So it's a constant battle. Like I said, you don't just put a tinfoil hat on your day, on your head to call it a day. You're constantly, it's a constant war.

[00:57:13] Um, so, so I couldn't use the water. So I started using dry towels and then I started using magnets. And I figured, and then the magnets, they would help disrupt the nanobots. And, uh, and sometimes I'd go back to the, to the wet towels. Like now I, now I often use wet towels. Um, but it depends, you know, they could switch it up and then I have to go back to dry.

[00:57:40] And, and another thing I, I started doing later on is the nanobots seem to penetrate my skin really good. So I had to start using a plastic wrap and started putting plastic wrap on my head and anywhere they, you know, like, like they use it on my genitals too, the nanobots and on my liver. So I've got plastic wrap and towels and, you know, I, I, it takes forever for me to get prepared for me to do things, especially going to bed.

[00:58:08] When you go to bed, that's when they really attack you. Um, they really come all out. And a lot of times when I'm sleeping, I'll have seven body parts getting attacked at the same time. Usually during the day, it's like three, maybe four, but at night it's like seven. Um, so it, it can take me an hour to get ready for bed. And sometimes I have to use hot water bottles because they have, they have microwaves that'll make you cold.

[00:58:35] I don't know how they do that because normally microwaves, they heat up the area. Some of them do, um, some of the microwaves heat up some like cut some, uh, some, uh, like, um, they'll shrink blood vessels. Uh, they can do all kinds of things, but they, they do have a microwave that can kind of like

[00:59:03] freeze you sort of, and they'll use that on my genitals a lot. So for that, I'll have to use hot water bottles. Um, so they just got all kinds of things. And then sometimes, sometimes I, I think to myself, boy, I wish there was like a, like a microwave, you know, like a government microwave expert, you know, like a, like a microwave attack expert that I could talk to or go to. And then I think, uh, oh yeah, it's me.

[00:59:35] There's nobody else. Nobody else will touch this stuff. And it's kind of depressing. It's like, well, I got nobody to talk to. You're on your own. Basically you're on your own. No, there's nobody out there to help you. And, uh, so I'm, I'm grateful. You'll let me have, you'll let me be on your show. And, uh, cause I, I reached out to a lot of podcasters and they just don't want to have anything to do with it. It's just, I don't know if they feel like they're going to lose listeners or they just think it's too crazy.

[01:00:06] But I mean, you know, you'll have, you'll talk to these shows. They talk about alien abductions, Bigfoot and, you know, bases on the moon. And so what's so strange about the government going after people? I mean, that seems more plausible to me. Uh, so, you know, this, this seems to be the one conspiracy theory that nobody wants to talk about it, but why is that? And then that seems strange.

[01:00:32] I mean, what's, what's, what's implanted in all our brains to make us think that this is automatically crazy talk. Cause I used to think that way too. I used to think, Oh no, that's government doesn't do that. You know, Russia might do that, but our government doesn't do that. Um, but you know, I, I think all governments are governments, you know, they're all the same. They're all inherently evil. That's just the way they are. There's nothing you can do about it.

[01:00:59] I mean, the best thing is, yeah, they're all corrupt. And the best thing you can do is just keep the government as small as possible. And that just, you know, that's the, that's the problem with the United States. I think is they just have too much money and there's just, you know, any whim they have, they can fulfill it. Uh, just cause there's just so much money there. I think when it comes to other shows and how they decide how they, this is just my opinion.

[01:01:28] It doesn't mean anything, but there's certain themes that they, like I know on my show, shows that talk more about cryptids or something like they do more numbers, more downloads. Like those are the things that more people want to listen to. So then they have, my show has tinfoil in the name. So I'm broad to all sorts of things because I'm more accepting.

[01:01:58] I'm not going to tell someone, no, I'm not going to listen to your story or your interview. And I've explained this before. I don't necessarily prove or disprove anything. Like I'm rooted in skepticism to keep grounded. Like when you talk about some outlandish things, I'm like, well, I always, that's just my mechanism of trying to figure out possible other scenarios just because I feel like if you start to go

[01:02:25] down so many rabbit holes, I've seen this with other people, like they'd never return. Like take for instance, the events that just happened with the weather in the last couple of months, like with the hurricanes, I've seen so much misinformation being spread. And I'm not saying that the government doesn't control the weather and have the ability to do that type of stuff. But I also seen some outlandish things that were being thrown out there that I knew were

[01:02:54] a hundred percent fake because they claimed there's never been a storm ever in the Gulf of Mexico before. I was like, I'm pretty sure Hurricane Katrina went through there. I'm pretty sure there's been other hurricanes that have went through the Gulf of Mexico. So I try not to go the misinformation round. I know a lot of other conspiracy podcasts lately have went off the rails when it comes to stuff like that. For me, I try and keep things just straightforward. I'm here to let people come on here and talk and that's it.

[01:03:21] Like I'm not out here trying to change the world, I guess. I'm just giving people an opportunity to talk about things that they can't talk about with anyone else because for the whole reason of the name of tinfoil tells is if you talk about stuff, I guess most likely people are going to say you're insane. But that doesn't mean it's not real.

[01:03:46] So that's why I do what I do because I feel like everyone should have an opportunity to talk about stuff. Right. Well, nobody knows everything. Right. And the only way you can find things out is by keeping an open mind and listening. But there does seem to be something about this topic that people just want to rule out immediately.

[01:04:13] And, you know, I'll go on the Internet and I'll post here and there. And one thing I've found is like a lot of the UFO people, they don't want to believe that we already have the technology. I think we do. I think it's interdimensional technology. And I think we've got it. I don't know where we got it.

[01:04:37] I don't know if we got it from aliens or if we developed it ourselves with, you know, trillions of dollars in research. I don't know. It's possible. I mean, I don't underestimate the human race. I think we're very smart. A lot of people think that aliens are. I saw an article. I didn't read it, but I saw the headline. He said aliens from outer space are 200,000 years ahead of us in technology. It's like 200,000 years. That's an awful long time.

[01:05:06] I mean, a lot can happen in 200,000 years. How does he know that? But I think there's a lot of propaganda. I think they want you to think that. I think they want you to think that we're nowhere near having that kind of technology. Because like I said, are you free if the government can invisibly fly into your home and start reading your mind, going through all your stuff? Nobody wants to live in that world. And are you going to be able to control people once they know that?

[01:05:38] So, I think that, what was I talking about? I'm really having a hard time. My neck is hurts. You know, they constantly come after me. They're constantly zapping my head. It just scrambles my brain. We're talking about the, you've got me sidetracked now, so I'm thinking about that.

[01:06:04] Oh, something about, yeah, okay, about aliens. They want to, yeah, okay. Like, yeah, I believe, I believe that we've got the technology. I think, I've witnessed it. I've witnessed it. And I think the traveling to other stars, I think that that is interdimensional. And I think we have that technology.

[01:06:34] Whether or not we can travel to the stars, whether or not we have the craft, I don't know. But we've got the, we know the basics of that technology. And I would assume that we have all of it. And, you know, I was thinking the other day that, you know, Brandon, say a UFO landed in your backyard. And they invited you to come on board. And you got on. And they said, do you want to go see your planet?

[01:07:03] And you'd say, yes, of course, take me there. And so they fly away, take you to their planet. And you're expecting all this wonderful things and, you know, technology. And you get off. It could be just like here, right? You could get off and they're driving the same type of cars. They're using the same basic computers similar to ours. You know, they're watching Netflix. I mean, who knows?

[01:07:30] But they could have the same level of technology that we have. And then you would say to them, well, where's all the advancements? And they would say, oh, no, we don't give those to the people. We keep those for the government. We can't hand those to the people. We can't let the people have that stuff. It's too powerful. We have to, you know, that's we have to use those as weapons. You know, even free energy. We can't let the people have free energy.

[01:07:59] You know, we have to, you know, they have to maintain a class system. They have to have rich, middle class, the poor. And you have to work to attain certain things to get the luxuries. You know, they can't just let you have all this stuff. I don't think they'd ever let us have any kind of utopia. I don't know if it's possible, even if you had all that technology. And so, I mean, I think that's where we are right now.

[01:08:26] Our government has all this stuff that we, you know, think the aliens have. We have the same stuff. And I don't know if it's helping us out. Maybe it is. Maybe after a while, they leak certain things to us, certain advancements. Maybe they give it to, you know, certain corporations to develop little by little. They trickle it out. Maybe. I don't know.

[01:08:49] But, you know, that seems, when I tell people online that we've got the same technology, some of them get upset because they want to believe that fantasy that the aliens are going to come and they're going to give us this technology. And it's going to turn the world into a utopia. And so they get kind of angry when I tell them, well, we've already got it. And you're not getting it.

[01:09:18] So, yeah, I think it gives people hope. You know, the idea that there are aliens out there that are more advanced. I think it gives them hope. And when I say the things that I say, it kind of crushes their hope. And they don't like that. So I'm up against that as well. And so it makes you wonder, where do people get these ideas?

[01:09:46] Are they, is this some sort of, you know, propaganda or brainwashing? Are they, you know, are they coming up with things that make us think this, that implants it in our head and we can't shake it? I have no idea where the whole notions come from. I have no idea what the agenda is. It's right. We get these beliefs in there.

[01:10:16] Yeah. Well, we get these beliefs in our head and they're just rock solid. And it's like, we have no reason to believe that. I mean, why do you believe that? I mean, who has told you that? And are the people that tell you that, how do they know? I mean, like the guy that says aliens are 200,000 years ahead of us. Like, where does that come from? How can you even make a statement like that? It's just guesswork. Yeah. But, but a lot of people believe it.

[01:10:46] They say, oh yeah. Even Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan. I think I've heard him say that we have the technology, but then he'll turn around and say that when we compare ourselves to aliens, we're like ants. So which is it? Uh, I've heard someone say they're about 50 years and more advanced than we are. 50 years. Yeah. Possibly. Five, zero, 50. Yep. That is what I've been told.

[01:11:14] That they're not as far as advanced as we think they are. I don't, I don't think they are either. I mean, they look different. You know, they look, uh, they've got big heads. They look strange. I mean, it could be that, like I said, if you go to their world, that might not even be what their people look like. They might look like something else. These could be just genetically engineered beings that maybe they're, they're able to

[01:11:44] withstand diseases better. And they can, you know, they could live on our, you know, move around on our planet without getting sick and dying. So, you know, there's a, if you look at humans and you look at what we think are ETs, in my opinion, what do we do when we're investigating new stuff like new animals or whatever? We go out to these areas, we do research on them.

[01:12:12] We maybe collect one, we tag it, we release it. Is that what they're doing with abductions? Well, we also don't always send out people. We usually send out drones. So maybe these things are their biological drones. They go out there and do all their research for them because the actual species that are in control of them are like, they don't look anything like that. These are just manufactured. Like we make machines.

[01:12:39] Maybe these things are biological machines that go out there and do their own research for them. Yeah. Maybe makes sense. I mean, that's the thing. We just don't know. No. You know, we assume so much without really even knowing. We have been going on for almost an hour and a half and I have some work stuff I've got to do in the morning. So I'm going to try and wrap this one up.

[01:13:08] But before we do, is there anything else you would like to discuss before we take off? Well, oh, my website. Okay. I have a website that really goes into a lot more detail and it's structured very well. So it makes it easier to understand. And it's not a lot of reading. It's easy to get through.

[01:13:34] It's chemspray.weebly.com. So it's chemspray.weebly.com. You sent me the link to that. I read through it and I'll make sure to include that link in the show notes for anyone listening. Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. Yeah, it's not a problem. I've enjoyed talking to you.

[01:14:01] I don't want to cut it short or anything for anyone listening, but like my kid woke me up at about 2.30 in the morning, I've got work in there. Like I said, they're in the morning too. So it's like I'm. I can only talk so long because they come after me and they're, I feel like I've got an egg beater scrambling my brains right now. I'm struggling to hold it together. No, that's perfect. I appreciate you letting me talk. No, not a problem. It's a good show. I'll keep listening. I appreciate that.

[01:14:32] Ken, you have a good night now. You too. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. And that's the show, everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations. If you would like to be a guest on 10 Foil Tells, remember to send an email to 10foiltells podcast at gmail.com or go to the contact section of 10foiltells.com to get your message to me. We'll get some schedule for a future episode.

[01:14:58] And just remember the truth lies in the stories we share, the connections we make. Stay curious, stay open-minded. Thank you all for joining us on this journey. And until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking and keep exploring the unknown. Good night, everyone. 10 Foil Tells in the headphones. Yeah, it's time to rock. Got a story about a cryptic creature. Let's take a walk. Bigfoot dogman. They're out there in the top. The truth is out there like an eight.

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