Ep. 106: The SEPI Agency

[00:00:03] And I just turned around and I pulled ass out of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with that The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me away the quickest

[00:00:21] When I turned my headlights on it turned and looked at us and one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were glowing red I See an orb of light it is just circling these steps like it is waiting for me

[00:00:40] And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO they're basically like what are you talking about? That's seven foot up on a tree peeking around it

[00:00:53] And that's where I saw the top of the muzzle nose and the eyes as soon as I made eye contact with this thing like death Welcome back to tinfoil tells I'm your host Brandon Wright tonight. We're gonna be joined by my guest David

[00:01:11] David is the founder of the SEPI agency for those not familiar with the SEPI agency is SEPI stands for the Supernatural Extraterrestrial and Paranormal Investigation Agency They were founded last year in August out of the UK

[00:01:27] And they've been growing since then and they actually do a lot of Investigations in a different manner than what most paranormal researchers would be doing But before we bring David on if you've ever had an experience and you'd like to be on an episode of tinfoil tells

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[00:04:36] We've been talking back and forth for a little while and wanted to make sure we got this recorded With him being in England the time differences is a little hard to work out, but we managed to figure out how to get it to go

[00:04:45] I look forward to talking with him. And I hope you guys enjoy our conversation Sit back relax and enjoy the show Like take time welcome my guest today David thanks for come on here talking to me. You're welcome and thank you for having me

[00:04:59] Yeah, a bit of pleasure You want to let the audience know a little bit about yourself? Yeah, sure I'm some names David John on the senior executive officer for the sepi agency here in UK

[00:05:10] The sepi agency are a new I'd say like a new vibe in power investigations as I as I quite coin it Mean that we do things very differently So when we get reports of anything supernatural or extraterrestrial or paranormal

[00:05:28] We will take it all on or even even the cryptids as well that fall under my supernatural category And we investigate all of it. So I might move fun for example who will concentrate their efforts on the UFO phenomena We will we expand that

[00:05:46] The agency itself are in a process of writing a online database That the sepi officers will primarily use but that data will collect all accounts from people and evidence witness accounts and interviews and eventually that will be anonymized in some cases and

[00:06:07] Put out for the public's consumption as well. So for free, you know everyone can have access to it. So The idea is that we start all working together Brandon. That's the idea rather than then having a

[00:06:20] Group here group there group there group they're all all well meaning and trying to do the best thing and Try and investigate things but the issue I have with with these groups

[00:06:32] And their method is that it's quite amateurish efforts to be honest. I know some are better than others But huge majority quite amateurism approach that don't document anything properly They then work very siloed. They don't share that information with anybody else

[00:06:50] This step is you're just trying to say look guys There's a lot of evidence out there to explain a lot of weird things and We need a central point for all of us to sort of gather and share that data

[00:07:03] And that good evidence so best evidence is it's a recording police in terms Myself I come from a military and Police in background so I work for the national crime agency for four and a half years very recently

[00:07:19] They are if you're not familiar with the NCA they are pretty much akin to the United States FBI So they deal with serious and organized crime nationally and internationally in covert and overt locations Yeah, basically and say chase very bad people all over the world

[00:07:40] So make sure they get a conviction and put these bad people away So I work for those four and a half years. I'm also a servant police officer Here in UK and I've been doing that now for what 10 years now just received my long service medal

[00:07:57] So it's nice of them So I've been there for 10 years on front line police officer deal with response You know response calls that we get and community policing as well Which has given me a real good backgrounds in how to do things and I'm also a government contractor

[00:08:13] So I work for the government in UK So I've got very used to how the government work and how they want things documented and the processes that they write Some of it good some of it bad, of course

[00:08:28] And I'm on taking police and principles and cookie-cutting that onto the sepe agency so if we get an incident report to us you will get a Incident reference number pretty much like you would if you rang the police

[00:08:41] We then have an officer on the case so we have sepi officers and we have sepi researchers I'll explain to a little bit later, but a sepi officer will contact you and then we'll arrange what we call getting a witness account from you

[00:08:58] And that can be done remotely or in person depends on the on the location of course And what we documented we document that and we recall that and then from that we do an assessment

[00:09:09] And then we will if needs be we may do a full interview with that person very much in the same similar style to How you'd see maybe people been interviewed by the police on the police and programs. However, no one's in trouble No one's under any pressure

[00:09:28] You know this is not a law thing. We're not operating You know, we haven't got the powers or anything of such So everything's on consent basis from the subjects that report the incident to us or the event

[00:09:44] So it's done like that and then we make a we'll make a final assessment and that is when we will start looking at Alternatives to solve the problem. So it could be that we do a field investigation For example, if it's a haunting would go to that home

[00:09:58] We may set up cameras and recording equipment that we we measure the rooms with a laser device. We measure emf we measure Sound levels, you know the ultrasounds and the sounds that we can't hear as human beings. We've got devices that do all that

[00:10:14] So really it would be quite thorough and quite for me and that approach However We're not closed to the idea of using psychic mediums or healers or shamanic work We're really lucky that I've got a whole resource of those people that I can tap into

[00:10:37] There's a there's a local group which has been going for 30 years now been very supportive of the sepia agency So I can literally go to that group. So you're right. I need you know, I need a psychic medium for this I need a healer for that

[00:10:52] You know and we can tap into those resources, but we we document everything Everything gets documented from the moment you contact us in a moment. We close the case so You know the evidence if there's if there's good evidence we capture it and we will

[00:11:07] Store that evidence in a secure place It's physical or digital We'll do that So but the idea is really and this is what kind of makes us quite different other than our police and background is We we're about safeguarding as well

[00:11:26] So as you can imagine in this world of the paranormal as we find ourselves There's gonna attract types of people There's gonna track those that are generally interested and have generally in experiences And we really want to hear from those people However

[00:11:45] It also attracts the the other types the people that generally want to boost their profiles or generally Want their ego is stroked We're generally just having a mental breakdown

[00:11:57] Is you know mental health is a big issue these days and I will touch on that a little bit later When I come to eds So yes, we we know we don't just say well actually we think your lunatic go away

[00:12:13] We may say okay, you know we've done the assessment and we're not sure we can really investigate this Which is a part way saying I think you need some further help And we'll guide that person to a local charity or you know suggest

[00:12:29] Booking appointment with doctor or whatever it may be so We do try and look after the person Even if we feel it's not a case we can take on I don't know if that makes sense

[00:12:40] But it's a bit different there. We were all caught passionate about safeguarding. I think like what you're doing with that aspect because Just from doing this podcast and I'm not trying to insult anyone that I've interviewed or anything like that, but I

[00:12:55] Do feel that some people have I Don't know if they're intentionally doing it, but I don't necessarily believe a hundred percent of everything that someone tells me so I'm kind of I'm very skeptical in general like that's just my nature about things and I

[00:13:12] Always try to take what people tell me at face value, but at the same time Something just seems so out there that it's kind of hard to Believe but I'm not here to prove or disprove anyone. So I do think aspects to it

[00:13:29] And it's a fine line because of course as you just rightly said he don't want to be insulting people or ridiculing people We've already had a number of cases that we are just not going to look at

[00:13:41] Because there were too many red flags very early on for us and we do look out for these things Too many red flags or maybe they weren't being cooperative enough with us. They weren't supplying the evidence that we kept asking for

[00:13:55] other three strike Royal Indian they brand and if they don't you know, they failed to Provide what they said they've got three times. I just don't I don't go any further None of us are getting paid for this, you know, we're all doing it in our

[00:14:09] Spare time. Everyone's got jobs to pay and bills to pay. So I cannot afford to have my offices and myself You know at the hands of an ego to stick narcissists

[00:14:24] We get we get and they've come and we've battered them away and but we're never rude about it I'd never for example, I mean it was one guy on Facebook that was sharing an image that I Unfortunately very quickly realized was fake through Photoshop analysis

[00:14:43] So but he got very upset by the evidence that was support Was given back and that that analysis was done by myself because I'm quite I'm quite techie. I'm a bit of a geek I'm unfortunately

[00:14:54] I've done it myself. I also gave it to an imaging expert. That's kind of like affiliated to our team So he spent I mean he gave me such Brilliant feedback. He is pointed at loads things that I'd missed which is fantastic, but ultimately it wasn't real

[00:15:10] So the you know, I did say to the guy very nicely that we feel that you know, it's not credible unfortunately So he's so I did two complete going Facebook and call us all sorts of names That's what a lot of people do

[00:15:25] Yeah, but in doing that what he was doing is drawing a tent the negative attend to took himself so And at this point out said you're not harming us your home at harming yourself So he then went and deleted all these comments very quickly with an hour

[00:15:42] But people get upset and I do get it, you know, if you generally believe you've got something Credible and then somebody says well analysis. It's been altered And your your adamant's not been altered and of course you're gonna get upset

[00:15:55] I do I do get that but we have to do our due diligence. We have to be skeptical We have to rule out the normal first You know, if you don't do that you're not doing your job properly in the beginning

[00:16:09] We take baseline measurements for example, so if we do go to a haunting We may go through may say to a time will is there a time where it doesn't happen? Oh, yeah, you know we come in the afternoons

[00:16:21] We're going the afternoon with our base measurements, you know, what's the temperature like in that in the rooms that are affected? You know, is there any emf in there? I don't mean ghost emf. I'm talking about standard normal emf that Is around us all the time

[00:16:38] So our tools don't capture ghosts We don't have any tools that capture guys We've got none of those funny boxies and you know that you put your foot on that captures a ghost like in Ghostbusters Which we don't have the PK meters flashing away like raising their arms

[00:16:53] They're just standard ordinary devices that detect certain frequencies. That's all they are So we do a baseline and then we'll go back To when activities supposed to be occurring more And then we we measure again, you know, we see if anything's changed and it was different and

[00:17:11] You know nine times that's him. We're gonna find quite natural Reasons why things feel different way So yeah, you know we're quite far and what we do as I said we document everything so everything gets filled everything is recorded

[00:17:25] So even to the point where we take a witness account of someone we do say, you know, this is going to be recorded Are you okay with that? And they're not okay with that we don't do it at the end of day It's um

[00:17:38] We have to protect ourselves as well but last thing I want to do is send an officer to someone's home and Then because they didn't like the result that we said and then then start accusing my officers of

[00:17:49] You know appropriate nurse or anything like that. So everything gets recorded for our benefit and their benefit and Just a lastly add on the officers there. They're all they're all security cleared as well, even UK

[00:18:03] So everyone that joins sepia agency as an officer has to go through what we call a DBS standard check Which does basically like, you know criminal background checks on someone just say, you know, you know If they're working for the sepia agency there, you know, then

[00:18:22] Great big long criminal record of all sorts of things And also I hold Government security clearance is to another members in the military at the moment And I've always I've retired police officer 30 years

[00:18:36] Another one's 28 years as a nurse. So we've got you know, there's quite a big spectrum of us and I've I'm not runs a school and you know all different backgrounds. So I

[00:18:47] I train the officers and how to take a witness account properly because there is a method as every police officer will tell you They'll get trained on that and also train them how to do interviews properly. So how to plan for an interview

[00:19:02] I don't mean an interview like this. It's very different thing I mean an actual plan interview with a with a subject that's talking about an account But that doesn't fit everything though, of course, you know

[00:19:14] If things just happen randomly, you can't keep doing statements all the time and interviews all the time You never get anywhere But we will take an account but then we may do just go straight into a field investigation Just see if we capture anything really

[00:19:26] And we do have a public house near us actually that want us there Everything's are happening quite often. So that'd be interesting. So we're going to see that one soon Okay on now before we dive into more but I did add a question like what led you to

[00:19:47] Want to start this obviously when someone Goes down this paranormal Weird pathway or whatever it's always been usually like some sort of Happening that's caused you to go down this pathway Yeah

[00:20:02] I say I say frequently, but I don't think anybody comes into this without something happening to him Nobody because why would you and I get the people that skeptics that have no interest in it Because maybe nothing's ever happened to him or it has happened to him

[00:20:18] But they're too scared to face it is in some cases and that's understandable too, you know, no one can be blamed for that but my first I Auditly or experience was when I was just three months old I try and cut the story down, but

[00:20:38] Essentially my my mother goes out there out the house leave me with my grandmother who wasn't very keen on looking after a three month old at that point So she just starts to leave me on a piece of furniture

[00:20:48] Which we called an ottoman. There has no size to it and it's raised off the floor about maybe I know foot and a half She just places me on this awesome, which is like a square shape of a squirrel around I can't quite remember

[00:21:02] But I'm three months old no one should be having memories at three months old so she left me there in the room and Immediately I find myself looking down on my three-year-old self from above

[00:21:16] So, you know like an out-of-body experience. I'm now floating above my three month old baby self and in In a coercive style I speak to myself and I say to myself don't worry be okay Just keep still and you won't fall off because that was my concern

[00:21:34] My three month old. I'm gonna roll over. I'm gonna fall off and I I said she watched myself And talked to myself in a adult Way there wasn't wasn't I wasn't chewing making funny baby gurgling noises It was fully caught fully conscious

[00:21:55] And that memory has never left me and why I can describe the room of my grandmother's room to this day And I spoke to my mum and dad about this and they both said yeah, that's exactly how you in and rooms laid out

[00:22:08] How how can a three month old baby have that? That's First one that's just not normal But that wouldn't have been enough to bring me into this So the second thing that happened to me when I think I was around about six years old is before my

[00:22:25] My younger brother was born and I'm seven years older. So he must have been in about almost six years old or so So we lived in a very small masonette, which is just two rooms downstairs two rooms upstairs pretty much

[00:22:38] Kitchen in a hallway in a bathroom. It's very small And the masonette means that there's another building on top of me like there's another masonette so We're we're in a which in the out in a council Cancer state in UK

[00:22:53] So it's not very affluent, you know, it's quite, you know, I wouldn't say poverty but you know, it wasn't Rich air or anything like that So we lived in there and every night

[00:23:05] My dad would put me to bed it shut my door but being a typical six-year-old is always scared of the dark So he'd always leave the hallway light on for me

[00:23:13] So I could see the beam of light beneath my door and I would see my dad stand at the door for a little while So I could see shadow of his feet And then when he went I'd know when he's gone and then I'd settle and sleep

[00:23:26] So it's that you generally stay there for about a minute if that each night It's particular night he he shut the door second night as usual and he stood there And he stood there and he stood there

[00:23:40] And he seemed to be there very very long time to the point. I was getting a bit concerned Bit worried a bit anxious, I suppose if we really know what anxieties at that age

[00:23:50] But I was a bit now getting curious. Otherwise dad still standing there. Don't get it And then I got brave and I got out my bed and I crept over to the door

[00:24:01] Opening door full expecting my father to be looking down at me and telling me off getting out of bed. He wasn't there Those shadows of feet were there until I opened the door

[00:24:13] But that wasn't the odd thing the weird thing I've realized him was that the the air around me was like crackling like static Because the hairs on my arms are standing up I could feel a tingling on my skin

[00:24:28] Something weird was going on now. I also realized at this point is very late at night because the TV wasn't on downstairs My mom dad's door was shut in the bedroom, so there must have been a bit in bed

[00:24:40] So I have no idea what time it was but you know, I've realized it must be very late And then I'm now facing the stairs looking down to darkness so upstairs the lights on so that's fine

[00:24:51] But I'm looking down the stairs into darkness and I had his overwhelming feeling to walk out in a horizontal line above the stairs So physics will tell you if you do that you're gonna fall because you're not putting your foot down on the stair

[00:25:08] You're walking out. It's a bit like that Indiana Jones film You remember the take a leap of faith bit when it when he's holy grail when he would walks out until they Yeah

[00:25:18] So that huge valley that's exactly what it's like. I walked out into nothingness and also I did fight with myself So well if I do that I'm gonna hurt myself on the fall

[00:25:29] But something kept telling me you'd be fine. Just do it just do it and then it's tingling It's funny smelling yeah as well And I did it and I didn't fall. I took the next step. I still didn't fall took the next step

[00:25:42] I still didn't fall I looked down and I now realize I'm now Literally lavitating above the stairs Don't think that's normal is it? No I'm now realizing I've been pulled towards the wall now. I'm no longer walking

[00:25:59] I'm now being pulled and the tingling isn't getting tense and this funny weird smell And now I'll get I'm now realized I'm gonna go through the wall at this rate

[00:26:08] You know, where am I gonna go? There's nowhere to go because I'm not going not following the angle to stairs I'm going in a straight line So now I get to wall and I brace myself for impact And I don't impact I go through and I see

[00:26:26] Wooden slats behind the plasterboard. I smell another weird smell and I blank out That's all I remember And I and I wish I could tell you I knew what it was I would try to tell you about

[00:26:39] With you know funny aliens and flying spaceships or I can't because I really don't know what happened to me And I don't even think I remember it the next day either. I think it was many years later that memory came to me

[00:26:51] And you know, you know, it's not a dream People that have experienced anything like this will know What is a dream? What is not a dream? Hand on heart that was not a dream and the reason is

[00:27:04] Years later I'm working on a building so I smash an old house down with a sledgehammer I'm in a room putting it put it through the wall and I immediately saw it when I put my sledgehammer from this plasterboard wall that there was wooden sacks behind it

[00:27:19] Just like I saw that very evening So they don't I don't think they do that in UK anymore It's an old building style. I'd say yeah, I think older buildings did the slats Yeah, yeah, and most of them while if that makes sense that's an older building

[00:27:36] So that triggered the memory seeing the slats and then the second thing triggered in memory It made it stronger was a smell this the smell was I was going through the wall was the smell of brick dust and

[00:27:49] Hobwebs and you know, that's a horrible must musky smell that old must that's what I smell. Yeah Yeah, you know if you're going to your if you know look like an old basement or something. Yeah basement or loft or You know, it's just a horrible

[00:28:06] dirt smell and that triggered my memory immediate like it was like I was there back there again and And then only in the last sort of three or four years I've realized what the first smell was the one when I was lavitating and that smell

[00:28:22] turns out to be iron eyes there Which I didn't realize until my wife won't be one of those plasma balls for my birthdays as a funny gift I was playing with it watching the electric electrodes go into my fingers big anymore

[00:28:38] I'm 50 odd years old and I'm playing with this. That's going on I don't have a lot of fun with it But I realized that there was a if you play with one those things a little while You know, it's kind of a disinfectant smell in here

[00:28:50] And it's ionized air is what you can smell and it comes from plasma balls because it's ionizing the air around it That we're immediately I realized that when I was six years old that smelling the hallway was ionized air It's the same smell

[00:29:05] So was it a spiritual reduction? No Was abducted by aliens. I don't know was abducted by a government program. I don't know I really have no clue what it was, but

[00:29:18] From that day onwards I was I was that geeky kid in the library looking at UFO books and The ghost books and filling my scrapbook up with UFO sightings and I was just completely

[00:29:31] Drawn into it and there's a wonderful program in the UK called Arthur C. Clark's mysterious world that used to air in 1970s when I was a child and Me and my dad used to watch that every I think it was every Sunday if I remember rightly but

[00:29:46] We watched it religiously and I was fascinated by the whole thing. So yeah, that That's why I'm sitting here now Brandon Everyone has their own Story of why they're doing what they're doing. It's the things that happen that put us on the pathway of what we're doing now

[00:30:06] Yeah, we all get a calling and in some people it's very strong and That's the reason why they're into this What you know signs are called fringe subject. No

[00:30:20] Yeah, we've all had a calling we've all seen something that we can't explain and I've had other experiences ever since too As early as last year even what made me start sepia agency because I've got kind of a

[00:30:34] Kind of a tax buyer an entity in a bedroom in a place. I'll stay in in a Airbnb Which is another big story which I won't go into this point the moments for another time But that that attack for me

[00:30:48] Scared the hell out of me because it's the first time I've I've seen a door open on its own You know, I've seen a physical object open on its own And something's kind of pushed me and kept me trying to keep pinned to the floor

[00:31:02] You know, I'm I'm a police officer up into ten years. I'm used to fighting people What we call roller-rounds Unfortunately, it happens that part of the job by the role some people get very excited because they're cocaine up their nose And I think they could fight you

[00:31:17] So, you know, I've been pushed around and attacked a few times in my career but this thing was The most scariest thing because I couldn't see it Can't see it. I can't put handcuffs on it Come can't hurt it

[00:31:33] It didn't hurt me, but it kept me pinned down for a little while and after that experience was like I Think I think I need to start the sepia agency It's been in my it's been in my mind for many many years to start an agency that will

[00:31:52] Investigate and do power investigations correctly and document everything correctly and more than a professional manner But I've been a bit disillusioned by sort of previous groups. I've been to in the previous years Where it's all very egocentric

[00:32:08] You know my story's got to be better than your story and all no and then I don't share that I just don't like any of that stuff. It's not for me. I don't have time for it So that's why parks the sepia agency for many years

[00:32:21] But after expensive happened to me last year literally last April I thought yeah, I think it needs to start now. So it still took me a few months I didn't really started till August of last year but now we have What we have all officers now and

[00:32:40] And a sepia researcher as well who's joined and I've got another one that's about to join and We hope to spread our wings a lot wider than just the UK So the sepia agency are not just a power investigations group we were trying to

[00:32:59] Give answers to things that people can't put on you know Put the finger on we're trying to come up with new hypotheses and new theories about what things really are For example, I don't believe in ghosts

[00:33:13] They sound a bit odd on a show like this, but I'll explain why in a moment when I come to what I call traumatic time impressions, but The ghosts also can be described as what I coin as EDEs

[00:33:28] It's not my it's not my original title for them and maybe it's not the permanent title form But EDE stands for extra dimensional entity is my full belief That's there are that have been entities a inhabit this planet

[00:33:44] Way before that we did and way before we were brought here Maybe we're the invaders to these entities. They're not very happy with us Nonetheless they exist and they don't exist on our same frequency hence why we don't see them walking around

[00:34:02] But they've existed a very very long time they've evolved they can switch between frequencies Which means I can come into this realm where we can't seem to very easily get into their realm and they feed on negative energies and of objects and people and

[00:34:26] People's probably a new thing for them, you know, if we look at our human history and we're not really that We're not really been on a planet that long Really if you compare, you know, five billion odd years women to be around the plans been be formed but

[00:34:41] You know, we're not really we're just a little scratch on the on the mark of history of the planet Earth really So imagine the delight of these entities that feed on negative energies that suddenly have these human beings walking around having a bad time

[00:34:57] Having bad experiences having traumas fighting each other war in Disagreeing just generally not being very nice to each other And maybe we started out as a lovely race of people Maybe we did maybe we're wonderful

[00:35:13] Maybe we were gods as people have said in ancient text like Samaritan text Maybe we're creations of gods and maybe we lived in a wonderful way and we use all of our brain Capacity and we could manifest anything we wanted and maybe we had a wonderful golden time

[00:35:31] Something along the way they've changed Our memories got wiped the the planet got wiped. We just Started warring against each other started finding differences in each other and their skin colors and their

[00:35:44] Sexualities and you look bigger than me and smaller than me or darker here or ginger here It's just ridiculous really what humans seem to find division on. Oh, yeah, what football team you support?

[00:35:56] You know, it's just it is really if you look at it. It's a little bit pathetic. Yeah, I'm always we're all had to Yeah Yeah, we're all human We're all equal so from the guy cleaning the toilets of a multinational company to the guy running that multinational company

[00:36:14] They are still holding both of them an energy within their bodies a spirit soul whatever you want to Whatever you want to call it so we are all equal because when those two people die they're going they're going to go through the same similar experience

[00:36:30] So we're all we are literally all equal so the whole woke woke agenda that's been going on since what? 2020 maybe before that even It's just ridiculous just ignore it That's my world advice. So anyone a lot younger than me just ignore it

[00:36:49] Stop it because it's just more division so And I'm not off topic with the Edease because they are behind a lot of this stuff So imagine if you will then these entities that can fade in and out of our own reality that feed from us

[00:37:08] can control you to and many people Famous and you know normal Suffer from an Edea attachment Some may make some may call them demons in the old days

[00:37:24] Now that's that's the religious term which I like to avoid because I think as soon as you were to use the word demon you are Given power to the Edease immediately because there's a fear factor with the word demon

[00:37:36] Demons also kind of sexier isn't it? No, I'm never gonna get a good film called Edee encounter You know the word demon in it. Yeah demonic attacks Yeah, you know it's just a marketing thing. It's just that people will immediately go demon That sounds fascinating

[00:37:55] But we've got to stop calling them demons because we've got to stop crediting in them that title and Giving them your fear because that's what they're living on literally are feeding off of you. So

[00:38:08] These things come to people in times of great needs or in times of trauma so You could be having a normal happy life and something terrible happens to you or you witness something terrible

[00:38:21] Well, you lose a loved one which just traumatizes you which happens obviously to everybody eventually And maybe at that point you're very low. You find yourself in a bit of a dark hole And you maybe find yourself reaching out for something

[00:38:36] At that point you can make yourself susceptible To an Edee and they may come to you in the form of whatever Hope you're looking for They may come to you as an alien and they come to us Jesus Christ

[00:38:49] They may come to as your deceased loved one may come to his Elvis Presley if you really love Elvis Presley enough You know or Bruce Lee. I'm wearing a Bruce Lee t-shirt that I got away Whatever whatever is your thing?

[00:39:02] The Edees are very clever. They're masters of deception. They lie to you They're the masters of mimic so they can mimic voices They live in your subcube they can enter your subconscious so I can know things about you too

[00:39:18] Which you think oh, why am I you know my dad aren't could know about that. No It's not if it's in your memory Edees have got an access to it. So bear that in mind

[00:39:29] So and then they can manifest as voices in the head for those people that feel they're Going mad they're not going mad There are there are voices in the head and then always their own voices And it's a shame that the science does not recognize that

[00:39:47] because these people need help and It's not with drugs, you know Illegal or legal drugs. It's not the way to deal with it So the Edee will make sure that your life sucks from that point on

[00:40:01] Things will just go wrong for you. You may start overeating. You may start taking drugs. You may start over drinking You may start find yourself in destructive relationships Just things go wrong for you all the time and you think to yourself why me why is always happening?

[00:40:18] You're just not in a good place and It's the Edees intention to keep you in that space For the more you're depressed and isolated The more they feed on you and the greater feed it is for them to They love it so

[00:40:36] It's quite a bad thing and they don't just come to people in times of trauma They can actually I've heard and I haven't sampled it is at all. So this is completely You know, maybe just a theory

[00:40:48] But I've heard that they can go from one linus to another second literally you can be born And you have this thing with you is it's come from the mother or father and it'll follow

[00:41:00] I've heard that. I'm not sure how true that is quite yet because I need to I need to meet some more subjects to be able to determine that but they can follow you through and Celebrities are very susceptible to these things Let's Let's give you an example

[00:41:23] So you're struggling action and you've you've spent all your money to get yourself to Hollywood Because you think that's the best way to get seen and you think you've got a talent and but there is a million others in

[00:41:34] That sound doing the same thing as you all trying to get above you be better than you Or your musician, you know, you know trying to get the band signed trying to get you know

[00:41:46] You work hard on marketing and it's not getting anywhere a podcaster find yourself in sorry And like what I'm doing here as a podcaster. It's all the same thing It is yeah, and it's a small drop in a massive pond as you can appreciate but at some point

[00:42:04] these celebrities may have found themselves Unwittingly Inviting the Ede to into their life And they could find themselves in a drunk in a corner drunk one not going I just want to be famous

[00:42:17] I'll do anything it takes. I just want it. I just want it. I want it I want it and at that point what that person is doing is giving over the free will Which is the one thing any Ede?

[00:42:30] Cannot take from you, but it's the one thing they will happily handle if you hand give it to them and I firmly believe there's lots of celebrities out there to this day who we know from screen You know from the movies from your favorite bands

[00:42:51] and actors on TV There's there's probably a lot of them have done that exact thing and then suddenly things change for him things can become easier They get those auditions they get the phone calls Well, their band gets signed for a good deal

[00:43:07] And then they just explodes for him And I bet it's loads of celebrities will tell you oh it just all happened Now try for five or six seven years to get famous and suddenly it just happens

[00:43:21] It's because those five six years before that they weren't giving themselves over But after they did it all started happening for them And then they they find themselves in this whirlwind of amazement. I mean imagine suddenly being a

[00:43:35] You know multi-millionaire and you're successful and everybody loves you and everyone's your signature He wants to be with you It must be such a mind-blowing experience to happen and you must get swept away in that in that Wonderful

[00:43:50] You know that adrenaline rush that must must be there all the time for them and then you know they get a claim and But something's not right Something's still not right with them. They're still not happy. It's still depressed

[00:44:04] They're still taking too many drugs. They're still taking too much drink They're still having destructive relationships or one marriage to the next to the next to the next This story is pretty much pretty much every celebrity. I think I can think of in my head

[00:44:20] There are some celebrities are very happy and live a wonderful productive life and maybe they did theirs They didn't invite singing and they did get that luckiest thing They do have that amazing talent and they got the world-deserved place in the world and well done to them

[00:44:37] Because they probably worked a lot harder. I can tell with that much so and I'd like to use Robin Williams as a bit of an example a wonderful actor as you all know I mean he lit up every film. He was in that man every TV program

[00:44:58] Just you know to have met him in person must have been an amazing experience just to see him and hear his voice and See how he you know how he presents himself over which has you well know from

[00:45:10] His you know his demise. It just wasn't what was going on really for him he was Not not a happy man, which is so sad To to learn from someone that's you know fills a room with light and laughter Defined up that actually had an internal struggle

[00:45:30] To the point where you know you felt that the only way out was to end his own life, which is just a Just the worst All for his family and I do feel

[00:45:41] So much pain for them and everybody's that's got a similar story where they've lost someone to suicide And it's not just unique sources of famous people happens all the time so

[00:45:53] It's just it's just an example that you can have everything but have nothing because if you've got the Ede Feeding from you. You're never gonna have your happiness. You're never gonna feel that real freedom So their parasites Edees are weak parasites in this realm

[00:46:14] They're strong in their own and weak here Everything that they do to people here. They have to do through somebody else They have to make you do it have to make you harm yourself

[00:46:25] Make you harm someone else you go out and do things but they will make if they but they will make things happen for you as well So some musicians and I've heard this I won't name them

[00:46:37] I've joking it said that they had membered the day they sold their souls to the devil you heard that phrase before yeah, and Celebrities have said that and sometimes they do it tongue-in-cheek as a joke. Sometimes they actually mean it

[00:46:52] Well, I don't rather I don't like the term sell yourself to devil But I think more the give up your own free will is the same thing So that at some point they gave up their own free will so it sounds all terrible doesn't it in glooms

[00:47:08] Yeah, it's not okay. It's not and it can be undone so Celebrity or not a celebrity if you've got if your life isn't just utter chaos all the time and You do hear voices it you don't always have to hear voices by the way

[00:47:25] It's just sometimes I sell a manifest but If it's just you just think I've wise my life so rubbish, you know, you know, I've got this I've got that I've got that why am I not happy? You know, you could have an Ede attachment and

[00:47:40] There is a way of getting rid of them and it's not exorcism is the good news We don't need to go to the Catholic Church to get permission Because none of that's gonna help

[00:47:51] And I don't want to rubbish the work of the Catholic Church in that area, but I strongly believe unfortunately That it's just going around it the wrong way Because if they were if they knew everything about these things and nexus and words

[00:48:06] Then the world would be a better place because these things wouldn't be so readily there all the time But they are there all the time Because the Catholic Church have looked in on a religious view only and they've said we believe that's a demon

[00:48:22] We believe that's an enemy of Christ our savior And we know that if we speak in Latin, it's gonna get rid of it It's not gonna get rid of it. Okay, that's not how you do it

[00:48:34] Doing the nexus into an Ede is just gonna wind the thing up. It's gonna make it angry It's gonna make the poor subject the victim worse In some cases they will they will pretend to go away

[00:48:47] But they know I'll come back at a later date and that would be worse. Trust me And an example on give there is the When you look at the Netflix Documentary called the devil on trial. I don't if you're aware of that it's about

[00:49:05] David Glaxill family. Yeah, and your boy got possessed back in the 80s and they made a film about it Actually, I don't know about a month ago. Oh, did you how did you how did you find it?

[00:49:18] It was on Netflix. That's how I just watched the documentary and The Warrens or whatever I know depending on Who you are? I've always kind of thought they're just grifters trying to find Stories to turn into money, but that's just my opinion on them

[00:49:36] Yeah, and that's a valid opinion totally I watched that documentary and also realize that I know a bit about the Warrens to know about their Catholic upbringings I know that they've allegedly I'm gonna say allegedly because I don't know. I wasn't there

[00:49:51] Made money out of these stories because obviously they're behind the conjuring films But it's for those now thing for four or five They've also written lots of books and the families that were involved with stories went around didn't make as much money

[00:50:07] And some would say that the Warrens helped them and some will say they exploited them and I can't I can't pass judgment on that because I've never met them and obviously I can't now and

[00:50:20] I wouldn't like to say but but but we talk about the 80s 70s and 80s here where things were just very different And poor old David Glakstra, you know he had this possession and they treated it Probably the way they fought with the correct way by exorcism and

[00:50:38] There's a guy obviously present at the exorcism called on who was a family friend I think it's David's sister's boyfriend or something. No, yeah Yeah, so he was only 19 at a time when he was witnessing this exorcism was probably 11 year old

[00:50:55] And he was freaked out and he shouted take me on take me on I'm here Which I think the priest or Ed actually said rich you should never do that Should never take on a demon as they call it Well, anyway, it all calmed down allegedly after that

[00:51:13] and David seem fine, you know normality seems to come back to the family and six months later Long story short on established friend to death Because out of the blue he said he felt like something took over his body and

[00:51:31] As you know, we've seen a documentary that's led on to the murder of his friends And the trial which is what's called devil and trial because it was I think as first case they tried to say Use the devil is a defense wasn't it? Yeah, something like that

[00:51:48] and it you know, it's brutal so if If the Ede did go, okay, I'll accept that and did jump to arm The eds have no concept of the same time as we Because we invented our linear time structure not eds. See they didn't care what six months is

[00:52:06] It could be the next day to them or the next minutes of them You know just a man just abandon all good concept of time when it comes to eds So they can sit back for six months six years 60 years and do nothing But they will come back

[00:52:21] This one did unfortunately And I'll see someone's died as a result and someone else got put in prison as a result Of course the eds loved that because you know, I'm sure he didn't have a lovely time in prison

[00:52:35] So the ed probably fed on him for another five years And I'm hoping to this day that he's better and he's you know, I Do hope that for him But there's just an example where I feel that the ed has

[00:52:48] Has jumped from one person to another because he got invited to do so which you should never do and it by the bid it's time so Going back to the actual exorcism at that night Ed and Lorraine Warren probably thought What they did works

[00:53:08] But it didn't because it came back and it ended up killing someone And how many cases are there of people of murderers saying the voice is told him to do it? It's just incredible there is a guy that was

[00:53:25] About ten miles not even ten miles from where I live back in I think it was the 70s He or voices and he went and Killed his family then he went down the road and tried to kill more of his family

[00:53:40] It's almost the same type of story as what the amenity bill story was but it's this actually happened here just a few miles from where I live Obviously, I wasn't born back then when that happened, but he heard voices Yeah, and

[00:53:56] It's easy for the medical profession to say well He's gone he's gone insane. He's hearing voices and rule it out But that's me is where science is letting us down

[00:54:07] This is why I started sepia you see I'm no longer going to accept voices in the head as a medical condition I'm not gonna accept that any further or hallucinations People see things people hear things and sometimes they're not their own faults and

[00:54:26] People have asked me well, how do you know the difference? It's very difficult because we all know what we sound like in our own Consciousness don't we will have out we know what our voice sounds like in our own heads

[00:54:38] But when you're reading the book, you're reading it in your head probably Or maybe you talked to yourself people talk to themselves. That's quite normal. So don't get freaked out by that But you you will get an idea of what you sound like in your head

[00:54:52] And you'll also get an idea of the kind of things and the kind of words that you use Or the loved one if let's say it's the eds masquerading masquerading is your dead mother for example saying like that and It always sounds like your mother

[00:55:08] But your mother may say odd things that she never said when she was alive You've got just you got to take notes of those tiny little clues Go with that's odd. Don't don't just think that's odd think that that's probably not your mum

[00:55:24] It's something pretending to be your mum to get you to do what you're doing or to continue the chaotic lifestyle that you're living Because as I said if you're kept in that mind frame of mind you are we're just a food source

[00:55:39] Like in the in the matrix when he says like we're all batteries things We pretty much are with but just energy for something else to live on And we consume energy every every food that you put in your body is a form of energy

[00:55:52] So we do the same thing in a different way and they're no different so The the way to get rid of them is first of all contact the sepia agency And we will

[00:56:08] We'll guide you for it. Do we charge? No, we don't charge by the way unless you're a mega celebrity Okay, I'm there and you know if you want to fly south great you get charged but No, we don't at this stage and now and now start up

[00:56:24] But we've got you free and it really is and it's no easy way of getting rid of it The the only one to get rid of an Ede from your chaotic life. It's completely changed your chaotic life

[00:56:33] You're gonna have to stop that drinking. You're gonna stop taking those drugs You're gonna have to change that job that's causing you the angst or that relationship that's causing you the problems Or that you know that family member whatever it is keeping you in that state of mind

[00:56:49] You we've got a change and you can't do it on your own You need help you need guidance you need somebody that's got faith in you Because you will get to a part of phase in your life where you completely isolated everybody

[00:57:04] Everybody probably hates you because the way you've treated them and it's not your fault You didn't mean to say those things you didn't mean to do those things you did Something was driving you to do that deliberately

[00:57:17] So don't don't take it on board. That's your fault that you attracted the Ede because it's not your fault They're always on the hunt. It's not your fault that you've done what you've done. It's not your fault You're hearing the voices Okay, it's really not your fault

[00:57:30] So you've got a recognizer it you got a recognized Ede is for what they are they are just low vibrational parasitic Entities and they can't actually hurt you It will never come in Stab you in the night. Okay, it's not going to happen

[00:57:48] You and read the moment you realize that that's where your life start changing But you do need to make complete lifestyle change You have to change your vibration You have to change your energy from being low and depressed to upbeat and happy

[00:58:04] As you can imagine Brandon that doesn't change overnight does it? That's a hard road. Yeah, I don't think with people accepting These things like It's hard for people to want to change

[00:58:20] And it's hard for people to change because if you tell them well, you have a negative energy beating off of you They're gonna think you're a crazy, you know, it's a hard thing for people to swallow

[00:58:34] Yeah, but that's that what you just said there. You're crazy. That's not them thinking that that's the ade protects in itself So the moment you think this guy is talking us a rubbish, you know, oh, yeah, actually my life does suck

[00:58:46] But I'm not gonna believe their words bloke saying It's not again. It's it's preserving itself It's gonna tell you I'm talking rubbish. It's gonna tell you don't believe a word I'm the lunatic on the one the ade

[00:59:00] It's kind of to all sorts of things just so you keep away and don't hurt don't help yourself So, yeah, I'm not gonna get You know, I'm not gonna get people flooding my doors with voices in the head

[00:59:13] Which I don't want them at my door frankly, but you know needs helping the correct manner But I'm not gonna get them flooding to me because the ade is they're not gonna allow them to

[00:59:22] But you've got to remember that you have your own free will and that's the other tool in this arsenal is recognizing the ades for what they are which you can do by reading the article in the sepia's website and Recognizing the fact that you've got

[00:59:38] free will and that your free will is my powerful thing second to love really in the entire universe Nobody can take it off of you. So you can ask for it back You can reclaim it so

[00:59:54] If it's go back to a celebrity example, let's say you're a mega celebrity big pop star on Radio all the time and TV and loads of videos You got millions of pounds in the bank here in about a couple of mansions

[01:00:09] You're living the life of Rylee's we call it in the UK and You know life is still not right. You still, you know, you're still not happy you still Still got people hanging off of you like a fake they're not your friends

[01:00:25] You know, you're not something's not right with you still and then and then you come across me And you but and you trust what I'm saying and you go actually I don't want this anymore But what happens how what happens to me?

[01:00:37] Well, here's the thing if you've made your millions in your career through the help of an ade And you want to get rid of that ade it's not gonna help you anymore Okay, so you've got to be willing to sacrifice Or to realize that your career may stop

[01:00:55] You won't lose the money in the bank and your mansions and stuff but you may not start getting no successful record deals or Being on top of the game. I thought you were or those phone calls for the next film You may not get those

[01:01:09] You may not get those but you will get your life back because the moment you you take your consent away I'm an ade and demand a free will back It will change and you'll get become more positive. You become more productive in your life They become more calm

[01:01:27] You know that those bad habits you've picked up will go away And it won't happen overnight But you can you can turn it around and then it you know in a year two years later

[01:01:37] You could be walking around your lovely mansion that you've you had a wonderful career making and thinking actually I'm really happy now. You know, I've got fulfilling relationships in my life. I've got time to do what I want to do now because you know they got lucky and

[01:01:52] a fun sense of good position and Even if you're not famous and rich and have these problems. It doesn't mean you should not tackle it Because you become more a positive person in life if you can get rid of it and change your life around

[01:02:07] And you will be a lot happier and healthier So it's a it's not all bad news. We can You can turn our backs on them We can't kill him unfortunately. I don't think there's a way of pointing the laser gun at him. I thought you know and

[01:02:23] Disintegrate in them because unlike, you know, we've got none We've got a life force. It doesn't die. I'm sure they're pretty much the same But they are still entities just like us and they are just trying to survive just like us And

[01:02:39] It's really we've got to find some sort of empathy and kind of Don't say word love but appreciation for what they are Because if we use them to our advantage, we could make life a lot sweeter for ourselves If we could use their abilities I

[01:02:59] Think our world would be different, you know, we wouldn't the world wouldn't be run by a psychopaths for example You got think yourself What what goes on the psychopath's mind? You know that a man a man that runs the country or

[01:03:14] And just what what goes on in their minds really? I mean, who's really Who's really pulling their strings? Is it about an ade? Yeah, it's it's the eds Banned together with other eds and the victims and a host And then you this is why you've got cults

[01:03:34] This is why you've got shadow governments. This is why you've got all these things going on in the world They're just perpetuating that that Cycle and negativity So we need to break it and it's not easy But it's worth it's worth the journey I feel

[01:03:53] So, um, yeah, that's that's our hypothesis and eds Um Like I say, they used to be called demons. I think we just got to stop doing that If we're given a clinical name like ed which doesn't sound scary whatsoever

[01:04:06] You're already sort of disarming them at that immediately. It's just taking away their power So, I mean, I'll you know, we could give him a stupid name if you want to call them

[01:04:17] My mushroom head. I don't know I've heard uh, it's almost the same concept. It's pretty much that they're The negative energy eating beans or whatever, but they call them the reptilians. They throw the alien term at them

[01:04:30] Yeah, and they claim that they're the ones that are causing all the problems are really reptiles Yeah, they're feeding on negative It's the same concept that they're influencing and feeding on the negative energy, but they're throwing the alien term at it

[01:04:43] So the interesting thing it's not the first time I've heard that so the interesting theory on that thing is if they are the reptilians um Have you ever seen in physical form? If they're only ever seen to come to you in your dreams on your productions

[01:04:59] They may not even be physically reptiles. It's probably what they what they are present themselves as So We'd have to literally capture a reptile A reptilian on video to be able to show that they are physical and form I I have no clue on that at the moment

[01:05:17] And I wouldn't like to speculate either way right now, but Yeah, I kind of go along with that You know, I think the reptilian race are just manifesting Manifest of the eds

[01:05:30] Like I said, they can manifest in any way they like they can be Father Christmas if that's what you want that floats about It's it's any like they're just they just lie and deceive that's what they're brilliant at and the reason they're so good at it

[01:05:43] Because I've done it for so long Now we're a bit stupid now aren't we in our evolution. We've gone backwards And we think we're a pinnacle of human Yeah, we think we're the pinnacle of everything when when totally the opposite

[01:05:58] We are the worst controlled species I think ever in human thought human form And it's all because people just give up give their free wills over willingly all the time And I think time's changing When someone said to me yesterday, oh do you feel there's a spiritual awakening?

[01:06:19] Um I'd like to think so I don't know, but I'd like to think so. I'd like to think something's changing I mean You know what they did to us back in 2020 which was global was the first mistake they made They they've presented themselves in a physical way

[01:06:38] And showed their power globally And they messed up Because at that very point a lot of people cottoned on to them straight away for what they are and how they operate and still going on today People still being out here today

[01:06:54] And that that war and I do call that world war three that was a war and all of us That hasn't gone away yet. It's dying down It's not gone away and I think that as a people will change they made a huge mistake

[01:07:07] Which I'm actually quite grateful for We called the beester It was us against the beast. They really messed up. No they messed up. Anyway, that's the eds um Can I go on to another hypothesis? What how much time do we have? Oh, you're good But everyone talk about

[01:07:31] okay so I said earlier in this show that I don't believe in ghosts Because the two things really one I believe eds are responsible for a lot of things um, they can Physically move objects apparently have I captured video? No

[01:07:48] But I have seen some of my own eyes only last year where a bedroom door is opening and it's only called in a in a room With no, you know, there was only all the windows are shut

[01:08:00] And a moment I switched my smartwatch on to light the room up because it's come from red light but Um, it stopped opening. So I know these things have an influence on the physical world So I'm accepting of that so So eds can be mistaken for ghosts

[01:08:17] The other thing that get mistaken for ghosts quite often I'd say Is what I call and the sepiality of coined traumatic time impressions Again, another clinical title. So I'll call it tti traumatic time impression Now imagine if you will Where this comes from you're on

[01:08:39] You're in a big battle civil war get his Berg And you know people are ripping each other to bits as cannon fire going off muskets and horses galloping and To be a soldier in those times Not that it's any better now, but but in those times

[01:08:56] Combat was hand-to-hand pretty much It was That is a traumatic experience to go through to kill another person You know by looking him in the eye and running through with a sword or chopping bits off of them is traumatic

[01:09:12] Even if you're the one that survives it. It is traumatic And that will never leave you So imagine that a thousand times over in the same battlefield One after another after another after another you're killing someone or you're being slashed

[01:09:29] Or you see your friend get killed. It's just Traumatic. I mean the word traumatic is not enough for that experience. I just can't think of any other word That trauma I fully believe at that moment in time Can literally slam against an invisible wall of time space

[01:09:49] And leave an impression Of that trauma and that and that event And then hence later when the battle was won and done You then start getting ghost stories. Oh, I saw this battle re-enact in front of me

[01:10:03] I saw this I saw that and it goes on all over the world In Normandy in America in the uk in japan It goes on everywhere

[01:10:13] People really people see battles playing out in front of them. There's a brilliant example here in the uk in a place called Warwickshire 1642 on the england's first civil wars erupted here in Warwickshire A place and it's called the battle of edge hill

[01:10:30] And so these two warring parties met on this hill and then they just You know toy chubbages bits cannon fire muskets and runners through with swords Horrible horrible stuff that happened for 23rd of october 1642 A little while later after that's all done

[01:10:49] In a small town called kind town kind town. I think that's a pronounce Some shepherds are out tending to their to their flock as it were in december 24th of december christmas eve So it's a few it's only a couple of months later after the battle

[01:11:05] And at one in the morning All three of them witness the battle of edge hill all over again They they saw what they they called them spectres fighting each other on the battlefield

[01:11:17] They said they were so terrified that they couldn't move because they thought if they did that they might get killed That's how real these things must have been to them

[01:11:28] And they could hear the noise they could see the men dying to hear the men crying out for their mothers And they saw they were petrified for three hours that lasted four before they could finally leave

[01:11:42] When when the apparition faded and they ran to the town and they woke up the Just as of of um just of the peace as it were in there and the minister They dragged them out there And they said a lot you know this has happened

[01:11:55] So the very next day now being christmas day in the evening they go back again at one in the morning And the same thing happens So we now got the shepherd seeing it

[01:12:07] We've now got the just as of the peace seeing it a minister seeing it and half the town because they all came out to have a look And they all flee and terror

[01:12:15] Back to their homes they locked the doors and they asked for god's forgiveness and protection and all this sort of Stuff they saw it and then this repeated again the following weekend and then the following weekends

[01:12:29] The the news got back to king charles the first of the time and he sent six officers down to that town so you steady them And I think as they you know the english back then was a bit different to what it is now

[01:12:39] Would say just just go and sort them out Can't sort them out, you know, they're all uh hysterical just going you know Reassure them and tell them all just being silly So these six officers sent from the king

[01:12:55] Again saturday night a week later one o'clock in the morning So really sunday morning. I should say They actually see it for themselves. They see the battle play out in front of them again for the third or fourth time now

[01:13:08] And not only that some of those soldiers those officers served in their actual in their actual battle And then they actually said in a report back to the king That not only did they witness it, but they also recognized some of the people in it

[01:13:24] Which is just incredible But here's the thing This is why i'm saying that these are not ghosts They didn't just witness the people that died. They witnessed the people that survived So what they were seeing was not a ghost not a not ghostly apparitions They saw

[01:13:44] A traumatic time impression come back again and play it out again And some people may say well, that's residual energy I don't buy residual energy. It's not enough to explain what happens Residual energy just means that they've picked up on something that happened there

[01:13:59] We can all do that in anywhere But this is different. This is something that actually happens to the fabric of time and space It got imprinted it separates And then somehow it comes back again and it plays it out again and the main difference between

[01:14:15] Knowing what tti is and a ghost is because tti event Anyone that's in it will not know that you're there. They won't acknowledge you. They won't interact with you So you are very safe because they can't even if they are having a big battle

[01:14:32] None of their bullets or muskets are going to harm you because in all sense and purposes you're not there You don't exist either um So that's difference How do you know tti? Well the apparition won't interact with you. It just do its own thing

[01:14:50] And this is not just about big battles A tti can be a lone woman. You know, you've all heard the stories of The lonely dark women roaming the castle grounds and And all that stuff we hear quite often which is all very romantic

[01:15:06] The women of the lake the lady lady white Yeah, you know what? There may be a traumatic story behind that. Maybe there was a murder Murders are traumatic Um, and that's left a traumatic time impression there of that single person um, and maybe they did see

[01:15:25] A tti of that of that lady in the lake But I bet you after a while it fades away and it doesn't come back Because I'm I'm what I'm still trying to investigate with this hypothesis Of course, it's purely

[01:15:39] speculative at this point is that I don't know as a way to rig restart the tti again deliberately Or the energy just bounces On itself just for a few times before fading away completely But by then You know the rumors are already Already keeps it alive. Don't they?

[01:16:02] I mean, oh, you know, we saw the lady in the lake like but the last time she's probably saw was probably hundreds of years ago But they may have seen it at one point, but now it's not coming back again. It's never coming back again

[01:16:14] And let's be find a way of tapping into it and bringing it back again Literally on call that would be For me the holy grail that I could find a way of start of

[01:16:25] Re-initiating a tti again because then I could go to any battlefield in any part of the world And say to people what you're about to see is is what happened on that day And it'd be like watching a hologram

[01:16:38] Imagine being able to have that that ability to make to go right go then and it just worked No that'd be incredible And it's still not taken anything away from the ghost thing Or the row the romance of ghosts. It doesn't take that away because

[01:16:56] This is what I'll categorize as a supernatural event It's an emphasis on the word natural But it's super Because it's super because we don't science has not explained it yet And what we're trying to do in sepia you see is go here's a new here's a new theory

[01:17:15] We believe this is what's happening now. We've got to try and put the meat on the bones and try and Find good examples of this And prove it to be the case And the reason we want to do this so that if people do come across ghosts

[01:17:29] That they're fighting the hell out of them and I see a same ghost with the same thing And they realize actually it's not a ghost. It's a tti. It's going to take away that fear factor

[01:17:39] But it's still being an amazing experience. So it doesn't you don't lose anything there Because I would you know, I'd love to go to to get his bird maybe And initiate the tti again, you know imagine seeing that um so yeah It's a new theory. Um

[01:17:59] And like I say people may say well, that's just residual energy like I mentioned but I don't think that just that's enough to explain it It's more it's more scientific than that That it's more super natural than that

[01:18:13] Um, because we don't understand nature. We just don't we're just not In our state of evolution and I mean consciously evolution. I'm not talking about Um physical evolution. I I'm not a believer of human evolution as a human species as a physical body I'm afraid but yeah, absolutely

[01:18:33] um, can't subconscious a conscious evolution that is definitely occurring and has changed so Yeah, there's this things which don't understand and this does bring us to cryptoids and you know creatures of myth

[01:18:48] You know, how are these things slipping in and out so quickly? How the how people so many people go missing In nature reserves It happens all the time the amount of people that go missing

[01:18:59] And we never find them and you know as a I speak from experience as a police officer I generally find all the people that I get assigned to or misperors. I generally find them But that's not the case everywhere um It's like they could completely disappear

[01:19:16] Where are they going? we they could be Tripping into different realms themselves. They could be taken away by government projects. Let's say I'd like to think they're not but you can't rule that out. Um, they could fall in foul of obviously some criminal activity

[01:19:35] But it's just too many of them Um, you've heard of the 511. Is it 511 missing the 411 411 yeah, I mean that's just the amount of the the stats are involved I think he's an ex-police officer actually actually isn't in the offer. Yeah, they're ladies stats

[01:19:52] Yeah, I see. Thank you. Um, the stats he presented in that was just shocking and you just think well You know the one that towers of when uh, a man I've done away at war so you're gonna forgive me. I can't remember everything but

[01:20:07] He was out with his son You know in the mountainous area And he turned around to take a picture of his son He literally turned his back on his son for about a second or two

[01:20:15] Turn around take a picture of him and he'd gone and then he found his shoes somewhere Now he's a wiper hill How on earth can that happen? so Actually, you know eds uh and different dimensional entities They you know, they're real You know these things and there's

[01:20:36] Crypts always using that I'm gonna call it technology but that ability They can come in and out You know, they can just they can just do it and we can't We're very very fixed and this vibration that we are on now hence, you know

[01:20:53] The reason I can see you is because you're vibrating your room as as I am here So we can see each other But is it really that you know unusual about change of dial slightly? So you're you're somewhere different, but you still occupy the same space and time

[01:21:13] And it's you know, that happens all around us. You got free g4 g5 g 6g even tv signals radio signals emf it's all around us. We don't see it But it's all happening and if it wasn't happening you wouldn't get data on your phone

[01:21:31] Well, you wouldn't be able to watch tv programs So when people do say well, I don't really believe in that. I think well then you can't believe in tv You can't believe in radio You can't believe in satellites Because they're they're doing exactly the same thing

[01:21:47] They're communicating on a frequency that we just don't see Because if we did see it, I think the sky looked pretty messy, wouldn't it? I wonder what color it'd be I've heard recently And I someone told me about this on a recent interview that came out and

[01:22:08] I came across it again yesterday on a facebook post But I think it was back during vietnam when They were issuing out night vision and it was like those different spectrum colors that they were instead of green It was red And the soldiers

[01:22:27] The gunner started shooting at these things that were warming around their helicopter because they thought these Reachers were trying to get them but it literally they're they're wearing these red colors and they were picking up things outside our spectrum Yeah, they had no interaction with this and then

[01:22:46] That's when they switched them to green because it drops out that frequency you can't see The things that are vibrating on that frequency And that's what frustrates me the most so the government accidentally found a way of viewing some entities and rather than

[01:23:04] Go, you know what we need to develop this for our soldiers. We need what are these they they stowed it away And they made sure they changed it to green So these things are filtered out and the soldiers don't see them anymore

[01:23:17] And do you think they stopped working on that technology really? No No, though that would be That would be probably very good technology now They probably can literally put a headset on and see these things now. I wouldn't be surprised at at all the

[01:23:34] Recent video I think came out in january of what they called the squid or whatever the uap that they released They blame you couldn't see with the naked eye, but you can only pick it up on the sensors of that camera Yeah

[01:23:49] So i'm like is that sort of similar to what these guys saw back years ago that they're only seeing these weird things floating around Because you can only see it in a certain spectrum. You can't see it without night vision Like how's I'm gonna

[01:24:03] I'm gonna call that one out and so i'm very skeptical in that video and the reason is i've analyzed it And that squid doesn't move It's very very single. Yeah It's very still for something that looks like Yeah, it moves at a steady rate Um

[01:24:21] I'm not i'm not convinced that's even real but if it is real then Yeah, absolutely. It does kind of go into the grounds that other cameras can pick things up and I know there are power investigation groups out there that have

[01:24:37] Spectrum cameras. I want to get one myself actually but they're About three or four hundred pounds Mm-hmm cheap But they they they convert your your 4k camera Into a full spectrum camera And it does see more band like bandwidth than we can actually see where I'm physical. I

[01:24:56] Am and beyond infrared as well. So it goes beyond infrared And but i'm yet to see good results with them That's the only reason i've not gone out and bought one Because I haven't yet seen something. I've gone. Wow. That's that's impressive

[01:25:11] I haven't seen it yet because the spectrum that we see is very tiny isn't it compared to the entire universe So even if you spread it out another few frequencies us Is that still enough? Not sure that's enough, but whatever those red vision goggles were doing

[01:25:29] in the vietnam They were hitting the right frequency of something quite clearly And that's the frequency that we need to be looking at so thank you band and you're gonna you're gonna make go and look for that now I got uh You just mentioned the full spectrum

[01:25:47] And while going to a tinfoil hat over here, but it is tinfoil tells I've wondered if What we're able to buy and purchase on our own

[01:25:58] It doesn't have that capability of what those goggles did back in vietnam. Maybe they're designed so we still can't pick up what's out there Yeah, I certainly mean Um, very probable. Yeah, I think the only way you're gonna get around that is by someone building it from scratch

[01:26:15] That's not like that um That does find out what the frequency were of those red goggles and work on it and keep it to themselves for a while Because the government here about it. You just you're gonna get another knock on the door So, um

[01:26:29] It's it was just a crying shame. But yeah, I think that's the only way I mean, I I wish I had millions in the bank myself because I would absolutely fund Scientists myself I'd make sure I undo them first And what I mean by undoing is that

[01:26:46] Make sure their mindsets are not firmly stuck in the I must only look at this because it's the only thing that pays my bills So I'd love to have the funds behind me say I'm paying you And I want you to be free thinking

[01:27:01] You know and just go for it and I I'm not expecting a result But I I want you to completely go sideways and everything That's what I'd love to be able to do but unfortunately science today are now so

[01:27:16] You know modeled from the very beginning even when they start going to college universities They're indoctrination Into it all starts very early on And they know damn well if they don't work on subjects that you know are

[01:27:33] Theme days. I know normal or acceptable and they're not going to any money and So therefore what's happened to science? Well, where is it? Where what's Where is it gone from a hundred years ago? I almost feel like science has turned into

[01:27:50] We're not here to try and new things and discover new things now. It's like we know everything or here to disprove what you think, you know Yeah, let's do trying to debunk anything any good idea anybody's yet got And as long as it keeps them paying their bills

[01:28:06] And we all need our bills paid don't get me wrong. I mean I want to get started on that whole system, but You know, that's what it needs. It needs scientists minds and

[01:28:18] Sinacity to really come up with new things that I'm not going to get spirited away in the middle of the night Or you know, I was watching documentary the other day about the zero point energy devices But there's been inventors inventing machines

[01:28:34] That give us free clean energy for hundred years For hundred years they've been inventing them and every single time That they they just demonstrate it and they'd say look this is it doesn't produce heat It doesn't produce smoke. It doesn't cause any friction

[01:28:52] It just produces energy from very little input or energy from the ether itself those guys get um Shut down they get the paint and refused Painting office come in sees equipment or the FBI come knocking at the door and in some cases They've been murdered

[01:29:16] And that's happened far too many times in our history for hundred years. That's been going on and Again if I had millions in the bank like if I was Elon Musk, he thinks he's changing the world by using a battery

[01:29:28] I don't think my friend got it one way round batteries are antiquated technology. Let's get away from that But if I was Elon Musk, I'll be putting in, you know

[01:29:37] If he really wants to be a savior that he keeps trying himself and change the world for the best Then for god's sake go and pay one of these back backstreet scientists and give you Zero point energy device and give it to us

[01:29:52] They couldn't regulate the energy use and make money off of it. So therefore We're not allowed to know No, but that's that's the problem. Isn't that is where we have the then the crooks of problem It's controlled even us free power is giving us our power

[01:30:08] And that's what they don't want and um, so I'm not an Elon Musk fan or any other billionaire thinks he's helping us And I can name a few They're not helping us They're doing everything they can to make sure that we don't

[01:30:22] Wake up and go actually we don't need you because Tom down the road has got a fag packet box. So it actually gives me power enough to power my street So thank you. We don't need you anymore. Yeah, imagine the dread in their faces

[01:30:38] We all start going we don't need you anymore And actually I found out that we can dig a hole in my garden and get plain water Because we used to do it under the years ago But now we're not allowed to apparently

[01:30:50] You know, um, I don't have the same in America but or Canada, but It's actually illegal to charge for water as such and this you provide a service for it in the first place So if you you're selling spring water

[01:31:06] In a bottle, you're paying for the water because Somewhere along the line someone's like going collect it for you and put it in a bottle and all that stuff

[01:31:14] You're paying for that really you're not actually paying for the water. So all the water has been pumped to your house It you're not paying for the water. You're paying for the service to get it to your house

[01:31:25] It is illegal pretty sure at least maybe in my state. I have to 100 confirm it, but I'm Pretty sure that you have to have a permit a government permit In order to catch rainwater

[01:31:38] If it runs off your roof and you run it from a spout into a bucket A container like a they want you to have a government permit Because you are catching rainwater. I was like, why is that it's going to run off and hit the ground

[01:31:51] Like how is it illegal to catch rainwater? But that is that's incredible That is incredible. I didn't even know that that's not the same in you No such thing But obviously we do get charged water rates

[01:32:04] And then they put more meters on our homes going well, you've used so much more water But if you go back to well actually water you should be charging for the water. So it's not the volume

[01:32:16] It's the fact that you get it to me. I should be paying for the volume isn't is incidental. It doesn't matter But they don't do that do that. They make sure you get charged by how much you use It's wrong So let's get these free energy devices Brandon

[01:32:33] Let's start digging holes in our gardens and getting that free clean water Yeah I'm gonna pump from the Energy device I'm gonna set up some barrels and catch some water

[01:32:44] And if you don't ever hear from me again, I guess someone listened to this and the rest of me for catching rainwater That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. How can you it's like you need all you need a permit to breathe air

[01:32:57] Yeah, you know how long would be to always we've been told that next You know, you know, and I won't go to conspiracy theories about that. Let's not give them any ideas Yeah, I think they're really working on that one. So

[01:33:11] Um, yeah, so TTI is then the traumatic time impressions. I think can explain a good large percentage of Ghost sightings. So they're not ghosts. They are literally Like a hologram almost playing out in front of you again

[01:33:26] Um, and then the other things that maybe do move things around the house and talk to you they're probably eds And then you may get a very tiny percentage that are um Belevenant spirit, I'd say But I've never to this day seen evidence of that happen yet

[01:33:44] I've never I've never personally spoken to a spirit and say can you move that chair over there? And felt a good thing about them and then you know, my life is still wonderful because they're around

[01:33:53] I've not I've not experienced that so I'd say I'm not rolling it out Because obviously that goes in the world of spirituality. I'm not rolling it at all But I'm yet to see it so until I see your documents here. I'm not gonna

[01:34:07] I'm gonna park it for now So that's why I make the bulge don't want to say I don't believe in ghosts because there are more supernatural or you know scientific ways of explaining what's going on

[01:34:23] Um, and I don't like user-less scientific because I think it's kind of had its day But I think we need a new term for it So a new a new natural almost some of something that describes how things really work on the planet So, uh, yes, that's that

[01:34:41] Um Do you do that much time we've got now? a little bit I try I try not to go over two hours too much and we've been here about an hour and a half so Okay, can I talk about the

[01:34:57] Jerusalem UFO event then so I can bring it back to UFOs a little bit. Yeah Fantastic, okay so in 2011 It's January 28th, 2011 in the city of david in jr There was a video taken of an object that came down quite slowly and hovered above the

[01:35:22] Um temple mount or the dome of the rock So, yeah, you're down in the rock Um, and it hovered there is a bright light that hovers and this was captured from video And it flashed twice and then it descended up to to the sky

[01:35:37] So I ascended I keep saying to keep doing that ascended up to the sky very quickly literally with a blink of an eye It was gone

[01:35:44] when I when I saw that video and because it it it hit the media all around the world is a bit of a You know went viral When I saw that video I was quite amazed by that

[01:35:56] And I remember saying to myself well, that's real. That's quite incredible Because obviously the dome of the rock is quite a significant site in itself It's revered by muslims because Allah ascended to heaven at that point from that point

[01:36:11] Uh, it's revered by christians because jesus christ apparently ascended to heaven again from the very same point You make the connections not me The jews obviously it's very sacred to them because the first um, because the first temple is called Solomon's temple basically

[01:36:32] So it's a very sacred site and it's been fought over by muslims and and jews and christians for hundreds of years And it's just been going on for long so thousands years really So the significance of a ufo

[01:36:46] Hovering over this this mount which is gold gold plated dome by the way. Don't even you've seen it. It's gold plated dome Um, and then flashing and then disappearing at that speed. It's just there's a lot of significance here

[01:36:59] Not only that the knights tempula occupied the place in 11th century um when they Were reportedly either digging for or had found the ark of the covenant and other such religious articles of power

[01:37:15] So they they took up residence there and had quite a lot of sway and then their excuse for being there was to allow christian Uh, the christians to come worship, you know without feel being

[01:37:29] killed en route by muslim invaders and things like that. They were there to keep the peace And to ensure that the you know everything was safe for christians to come and worship I don't really buy that

[01:37:42] I think they were there very much for the artifacts that there was allegedly Were housed there Because the temple of solemn was built to house the ark of the covenant. Let's not forget that That's what its main purpose was So it did used to reside there so

[01:37:58] There's a lot of history around that And so so this ufo to come to me was quite astounding So for the years have gone by so this is 2011. So it's a long time ago and then

[01:38:13] As time went on I've obviously gone back to that video and I thought you know, is it real? Is it not? And I found out there's other videos of the same event. So there's more than one video showing the same thing Which is unusual in itself

[01:38:24] So when I started to step you see in august Uh, when I started learning how to do video editing, which has been a journey in itself. I can tell you Um, so I used Da Vinci Resolve, which is a wonderful piece of software. Um

[01:38:38] When I started learning that stuff, I wanted to really analyze properly all the video footage I could from that Jerusalem UFO event in 2011 So I I made it an open investigation and I started analyzing it I obtained seven different videos of that one event

[01:38:55] Seven different videos, which is unusual um And I I started off We're fully trying to prove it's it's real Fully trying to prove that the government are behind a you know A deep state secret and misinformation and propaganda

[01:39:13] My mindset was I'm going to prove that this is real and the government's behind keeping it closed And this is significant and all this wonderful. This that was my mindset

[01:39:24] I'm very methodical on what I do. I'm good with it. I'm good with photoshop and Da Vinci Resolve and sounds um recording quit software So I obtained seven different videos and I analyzed them literally frame by frame and uh, you uh, I've made a youtube video

[01:39:44] about how I analyze these videos The the depth I went to and I show the examples and how to do it and uh And unfortunately as I started digging into the evidence I started finding cracks I started finding evidence against

[01:40:04] The fact that it was real which really was Painful for me because I didn't want it to be not true. I wanted it to be true For that famous poster isn't it and wrapped my head

[01:40:18] Yeah, you got it. There it is behind you. I want to believe I totally wanted to believe But unfortunately I started realizing that the evidence wasn't stacking up for it for its favor

[01:40:29] um, I found evidence which is brand new. No one's ever mentioned found this evidence before that prove that event to be fake And I have presented that in my video which was supposed to be a 15 minute video which turned into a 49 minute video

[01:40:45] Because of all the evidence and I had to explain myself because I fully believe You cannot say that's not real turn your back and walk out the door

[01:40:55] That's not good enough if you're going to say something like that is not real you got to prove why it's not real You got to show the evidence So I I spent nine weeks Nine weeks creating that 49 minute video

[01:41:08] Um, because I had to do so much work behind it I don't also just analyze the footage and the sounds I I I dig into the people Who are they who uploaded it? What's their background? What are they doing now? What is it? What is their profession?

[01:41:25] I do a person a person's of interest investigation as well, which is not what many groups do And I found out connections between all of the witnesses For example, the main video Was was shot by a guy that owns his own film production company In israel

[01:41:44] He's an actor as well um second video He was meant to be with the first guy. He's all he teaches film at local university The third video filmed by students that like nine kilometers away from where the first two guys are

[01:42:01] They're all film students. It turns out and they all get talked by and a guy done video too So he started getting a picture Okay

[01:42:11] And that and the bombshow evidence that I found but I don't really want to spoil my video because I want people to go and watch it but There's a point in there where

[01:42:19] One of the actors has made a fatal mistake of being in two places at once and I prove it He's actually 90 millik kilometers away from himself at the very same time incredible

[01:42:31] Is he's sudine or something? I don't know how he done it. Maybe he's an ed. He just got himself there very quickly But he's filmed himself in two different places at once I don't have done it by accident

[01:42:43] Well, he's meant to drop that little cookie crumb. I don't know but My video exposes that my video also exposes that the footage filmed by american tourists that evening It's all happened one in the morning by the way Okay

[01:42:58] So there's two videos filmed by american tourists that state that they And I won't do the accident. I won't sell anybody in in the u.s. So I won't do the mississippi accent but

[01:43:08] This lady with a very broad mississippi accent states that she's she's seen things like that in mississippi before but never like that Well, although these

[01:43:18] You can hear it in two videos. You can hear her say the same sentence in two videos because two people stand next to each other She says it in first video. She says that when the ufo is hovering above the dome

[01:43:29] But in a second video, which is only a few feet away from her She says the same thing again After the ufo is departed Which is not possible inconsistencies Yeah, it should have matched if they're next to each other It should have been the same

[01:43:46] No, and then I realized that the background noises were busy daytime noises because I analyzed the audio And I also captured another american accent saying oh, it would be nice to come back in the nighttime

[01:43:59] What's that time is one in the morning how much that time do you need it to be? yeah It's so they're they're they're brand new pieces of evidence. See all the evidence is new No one's ever analyzed it before so I've exposed that

[01:44:13] And the the evidence that the guy was in two places at once is brand new as well Now obviously I have um contacted these individuals for comment They didn't comment They didn't get back to me surprise surprise

[01:44:29] Uh, although I apparently have upset jesus christ the second comment of upset him So There's a guy on the video also named on there. Um He's basically saying that the footage was that the event was real because it's a sign from god to tell him

[01:44:46] Because he's the second coming that it was a sign from god to say that he's got to go forth and do his thing so So when I contacted him said um, I'm sorry, but this event didn't actually happen. So what does that mean for you?

[01:45:00] He got really cross with me strangely very very upset Very angry with me. You don't want to make jesus mad and he might come and smite you Nah, apparently he's danish Um

[01:45:14] But the same guy I I checked out his website. I mean it does literally right on there that he is the second coming but he goes to concerts and and then sees something like um You know like just an ordinary pop star and then and then says that

[01:45:30] She was she was singing to him. It's a sign from god. So come on You know, um, you you enjoy your own conclusions, but I don't think that's how jesus would operate v word to come back Um

[01:45:43] And the fact that the ufo wasn't in the first place therefore means that it wasn't a sign from god. Was it it didn't happen so, you know what it was a

[01:45:52] A real crying shame that the evidence unfortunately didn't support the event and I was more disappointed in anybody when I realized that Because I so wanted that to be true

[01:46:03] Because I so wanted to go like this is an amazing event. We should all be sitting up and taking the attention of this But it's not and one of the other videos the seventh video was just the most amazing piece of rubbish. I've ever seen in my life

[01:46:17] Um, you actually had a monk in it walking out of a mysterious door When just just after it's big massive ufo appears And I've proven the size of the object by the way. It's only 3.4 meters in diameter

[01:46:29] I've proven that on the video you can go watch it and explain why and how I've measured it But there's seventh video this huge ufo comes flying over Spinning around with its lovely lights on it

[01:46:41] Uh, and this monk comes along shrouded in mystery and he drops his keys on the floor And the guy who's filming this doesn't do what any other human being would do is go. Excuse me

[01:46:52] You've dropped your keys. He doesn't do that. He just lets the monk walk off into the dark Picks up the keys and on the keys is a symbol of not the night's tempela Uh, and it that was just an incredible video. Um

[01:47:09] And the key itself isn't an ancient old key that you think you've seen indiana jones or something It's a modern key with the dots in it. You know, it's really a real modern key Um, we're a nice sample of key ring on it

[01:47:25] You know, I'm not I don't mean to mock but that one just had me in stitches because I think If if I was there one in the morning and this weird monk I'm walking out and he dropped his key

[01:47:37] I'd go. Excuse me. You know, I'm british. I'm gonna excuse me. Make you dropped your keys You pick it up and you go. Oh, thank you very much. You wouldn't just let the guy walk off

[01:47:48] And then you just pick it up and look all mesmerized and then you see just ruddy great UFOs suddenly over your heads spinning around Which is far too big to be the same object that is on the other videos

[01:48:00] So, yeah, it's um, that was entertainment uh, it's uh, Eek And unfortunately the guy that done that number seven video was also responsible for the first video So that just goes if one of them's fakes, they're all gonna be fakes

[01:48:14] Mm-hmm. So, um, it was a journey Brandon to say the least I don't want to come across though as That the sepia gc is a debunking outfit because we are totally not We're not that at all We're trying to provide and document best evidence

[01:48:34] We're trying to do it in a methodical manner Um, and yes, we are being mindful of the things we can't measure Because you know, I've had that criticism already. You can't measure poke everything and plot everything. I get I know that I get that an excellent experiment

[01:48:50] The guy's spare essential. I think it's called So we will record the sensors outside the normal five Uh and go well, what was the feelings? What what was going on? You know in the person's brain. What did they feel any repression? Did they

[01:49:07] So we do ask those questions too. So it's not all about just what we can measure and weigh and and prods But if you don't do those bits first, then you're not doing the job of investigating properly and I'm going to be Be quite adamant on that one

[01:49:25] If you can't even do the basics and just don't don't do it at all If you're going to keep running into a first investigation with a psychic medium Without measuring anything without documenting anything then you you got to ask yourself

[01:49:36] What good are you doing for the cause itself? You know the this the disclosure calls getting everything out there and making life better for everybody because that's That's what we're all doing It's why you do your podcasts. We're all trying to get answers Um

[01:49:54] If you realize if you realize you're a soldier in that war or not you are because you're part of it And it's a good place to be I'd say Brandon. So keep going I don't see myself stopping anytime soon, but No, and don't either and it will become

[01:50:11] difficult at times it will become more problematic than you think it's worth But just they're the most you just need to take a breath Step back maybe just like to take a week or two off or even a month off

[01:50:24] But you would then go back with fresh eyes and fresh ears and it'd be good again So you will get days like that and everyone does everyone that's part of this insane world that we're in

[01:50:34] Um, all get that and I've had it already. I only started sepia in august I've already had doubts about it, but that's just the doubts that stop you doing things So you could just got you put them in the shredder get on with it

[01:50:46] Um, but sometimes you do need to take a break. I think that's quite normal Because life does get in the way doesn't it I'm going on break here in july So I'm going to take the month of july off maybe into august a little bit

[01:50:59] But I should have enough recorded to where no one will notice the difference Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's turns out what would be what would be a much needed break So but we're all we're all fighting this battle basically. Um It's a shame so

[01:51:15] Just getting me really onto my last point about what sepia trying to achieve then You know, I think I'd like I like to think I've got their message across about How different we are and the way in the way what we operate

[01:51:27] What I'd like to achieve really is that other paranormal investigating groups around the world And in obviously in uk and around the world that we start working together That we start sharing information and data that we start using common practices That we start almost formalizing it better

[01:51:47] And we start getting rid of the charlots And I don't like to out a charlotten Because you know it gets personal. Um, but we've got us just Ignoring, you know, some of them are made good. I've made good careers out of it writing books or being on tv

[01:52:04] Um It's just it's got to stop, you know, and the only way we can do that is by working together So the sepia gc. I've got a system that I've written in vb scripts Which I'm going to get converted onto the web

[01:52:18] So I've gone to some guys in india. I'm gonna get I am I used to be a programmer But I just have not got the time to program a whole web application at the moment So I'm I'm taking some guys in india and hopefully they're gonna

[01:52:31] Get this done for me With my spec, but they're gonna write a web front end with an sql database System where we will categorize everything just very much like the disclosure projects done With dr. Stephen Greer and he's released recently with the ufo's

[01:52:47] Which is wonderful work and great and I know it's going to be a big effort, but The sepia gc not just going to stop on at ufo. It's going to be all paranormal All supernatural all cryptoid Any anything that's not deemed as normal to be captured

[01:53:02] So the database will be Shared then because it'd be on the web. It'd be accessible from by anybody anywhere And I'll probably hopefully turn it into a an app as well So you can report something easier because everyone's got a device in their pocket these days um

[01:53:22] Rather than expecting them to go back and do it on a laptop. So What I need really is if people have some synergy with this Feel that yet, you know what I think we do need to band together now

[01:53:34] Contact us we start talking and we start putting processes in place so we can work together And stop ignoring each other Because keeping us working in the siloed as we are just keeps us keeps a truth away from us Because what is the first rule of war?

[01:53:52] It is to divide and conquer. Yeah, okay They've been doing that to us for a long time through religion through politics through Who fancies who these days as the new ones? Is a ridiculous concept. We've got to stop it

[01:54:10] So ego's aside and ego's all slipping even my own and I'm fully aware of that I need I need to push myself as a person. I know to to get Seen so sepi can be heard

[01:54:22] So I know I've got to kind of put myself in that in that firing line a little bit But the egos have got to be parked at the door and your data and information has got to be shared I think in a more transparent way

[01:54:34] And we we sepi. I just follow a code of ethics Transparency and honesty and all that sort of good stuff that the police do It's the same as the police code of ethics here in the uk

[01:54:45] And I and every sepi officer that joins have got to agree to abide by those ethics It's all about respect. It's all about being honest and transparent Even if it doesn't agree with your own personal belief We've just got to park it because there's you know

[01:55:00] There's things that I'm going to come across that I don't quite Take on board like the flat earth theory thing. I'm not bought on that but If there's good evidence I'm all ears show me it

[01:55:14] But if you ask me now, do I believe the earth is flat? No, I don't I don't understand how we would be flat when everything else in the universe is round I don't I don't get that basic concept

[01:55:24] Plus in the military when we was talking to shoot at long distances We had to factor in velocity and wind factor, you know direction But the other Mathematical thing that to work out was the curvature of the earth Because as you fire around that of your 50 cal rifle

[01:55:46] That is going to go some but it's going to lift because the earth is not flat So you've got to calculate that curvature of the earth and every pilot would tell you the same thing So I'm not brought on that theory but

[01:56:01] Please if you're flat earth and you think I've I've missed something crucial come to me and tell me Maybe the sepulation can do that as a part of investigation. I don't know but a future youtube video for it

[01:56:14] But come to me. I'm more than happy to have a have my mind opened To those, you know, it's a concept that I've previously just shut the door on Um And I'm part of me thinking please don't prove the earth is flat. Please don't prove his office flat

[01:56:31] I will tell you if you do start to go down that rabbit hole. There are some things that make you question I'm not a flat earth or per se, but I do have some questions about certain things because when you see what they present

[01:56:43] Yep, it does kind of make you scratch your head a little bit Yeah, one thing that did make me scratch my head about that is that a flat earth a shared a picture of Planet earth there's two pictures one was a bit grainy one was a bit clearer

[01:56:55] Just two pictures of the earth and he and he said The first one was taken in 1969 And the other one was taking When's the last Apollo mission? I can't remember so i'm not gonna state the date

[01:57:08] 72 right so they were different okay different times. However, the clouds are in exactly the same position Yeah I like to go oh The clouds can't possibly be in the same position throughout the whole planet That's not possible

[01:57:26] So obviously that the what you go to then we're at mind go my mind goes is that proven those photographs are legit for a start They're not actually the same image that one's just made to look clearer so I would I would try and get

[01:57:40] The originals of those photos and then analyze them have them analyzed properly So that would be my first All of fun. That's where I'd go to but if they are real Something's not right because clouds can't form form again ever in the same formation ever. It's just impossible

[01:57:57] So yeah, that that made me scratch my head Brandon If it was a picture from the moon I scratch on the moon. Yeah, I scratch my head on those anyways because I would be 100% I don't necessarily think we actually went to the moon Just because

[01:58:15] That's a whole big rabbit hole in itself. But I feel like yeah, it is and um I don't want to be dragged into that debate, but I think you got to look at what the politics what the politics were like around that in the us at the time

[01:58:28] There's your answer. Yeah, and But the stuff does not hold scrutiny here 50 something years later And they almost 60 years now but And it's a big question is why have we not come back? Yeah, that's what I'm here to say is why we stopped going in 1972

[01:58:49] And then we destroyed all of the technology That got us there and now they can't replicate that They haven't been able to replicate the technology they destroyed because they didn't want to fall into the wrong hands Like that is the most convenient bullshit if I've ever heard

[01:59:03] Yes rubbish. I mean Elon Musk got a rocket can do the do the same bloody thing right now It can do it. It's funny though because I just read something though about Elon musk is rocket. They have to be refueled On their way to the moon

[01:59:18] They said it's going to take refueling just to reach the moon. Well the original rocket from the 60s didn't have to be refueled How does that work if you if you throw if you're in space and you throw an object

[01:59:31] Just from your hands, it will continue to go that's that's basic science It will continue to move It doesn't stop. It doesn't I feel they call it inertia. It doesn't just stop run out of Push it will go on forever

[01:59:46] Yeah, that's why if you're an astronaut in space the last thing you want is to detach yourself accidentally from your craft Because you will just float forever. You're not ever coming home So you only need a tiny bit of thrust

[01:59:59] And maybe a few to keep you aligned maybe But you don't need loads of thrust to then start waking away to the moon You need lots to get off of it You need lots to get off of earth, but you don't need lots in space

[02:00:13] So yeah, absolutely. They didn't have to have a whole lot to leave the moon though They only had that little thing to leave them. So it it appeared to be a bit of a like a flashbang, wouldn't it? Yeah

[02:00:24] Like I said that the whole thing it's a completely different rabbit hole, but it's I've just never bought even as a kid I never really thought we've been to the moon

[02:00:32] Oh, I did believe when I was a kid because I was a kid and I thought that's a wonderful thing But now mold on my zone. No No, it's gonna takes a lot more than You know a movie set to convince me now. No

[02:00:47] Well, David, I think we can probably wrap this one up, but I do want to say I appreciate you coming here talking today It's been a pleasure Yeah, well, thank you again for inviting me. I really appreciate it and uh, yeah

[02:01:00] There's lots of things we're going to be looking into in the future. So yeah, watch that space if you go to our website sepi Which is sepi sepi hyphen agency.com Uh, you can keep a breast of our cases and our youtube channel as well

[02:01:15] I'll make sure to include that link in the show notes for anyone listening Wonderful. Thank you Well again, thank you for coming on here and talking with me today It's been a pleasure and I recommend everyone out there listening to check out the sepi agency

[02:01:29] I'm sure they're gonna find some cool things and stuff you guys should be interested in so But thanks to david and thanks for listening And that's the show everyone I really hope you guys enjoy the conversations

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[02:01:57] And just remember the truth lies in the stories we share the connections we make stay curious stay open minded Thank you all for joining us on this journey and until next time keep questioning Keep seeking and keep exploring the unknown. Good night everyone

[02:02:28] You have all settings got the whole world Conspiracies unfold like a story in a book Media control trying to keep us by Before gonna use my whole mind In history they want us to know The secrets they hide The truth they won't show Done in our society

[02:02:57] They keep us in chains But I'm standing tall it's time to break the reins Media control trying to keep us blind But I won't be fooled gonna use my whole mind In history they don't want us to know The secrets they hide The truth they won't show

[02:03:42] Done in our society They keep us in chains But I'm standing tall it's time to break the reins